Marcus S. Abildskov

@MichaelBrauner where does it even say anything about Fresh being a "full-stack framework"?

> @marcus-sa [Here](https://youtu.be/4boXExbbGCk?t=31) Do you know what a full stack framework is? It's a framework you can leverage to build both frontend and backend apps with, such as Next, Remix...

> It seems to work ok. > > To me, the weirdest part of these newer frameworks is the implicit statelessness of the server-side code. It's assumed that you will...

> Come again? The link and playground code seems to prove the point - `3x more verbose` - too much cruft! Yeah, but he mentioned using ORMs would decrease speed,...

Thanks I'll try it out. Would it work if I disabled `experimentalDecorators` in my `tsconfig.json` and started using this combined with Babel and TypeScript?

Currently using it for our AppWriter dictionary server at [Wizkids](wizkids.co.uk) Been mentioning several times we should migrate completely to Nest, but well, that time will come 💃

`use` doesn't seem descriptive for what it does. And that's still not a dynamic API as you can only add routes inside decorators. You should be able to import the...

@BrunnerLivio yes, but `use` is an inconsistent name in MAF's _(module architecture framework)_ as by usage it's actually a `FactoryProvider`, so it should be `useFactory` instead for naming consistency within...

@BrunnerLivio yeah I just noticed that too and was about to propose the same `useHandler` or `handler` in the beginning

@kamilmysliwiec will this get implemented at some point, or should it just be scratched completely? :smile: