Jackie McDoniel

That's great. I'm still waiting to find out what problem ESM solves with regards to Node and Typescript. Seems it's brought about way more headaches than solutions

> @jmcdo29 more and more node.js packages are switching to ESM. It can be very problematic to use this packages in a CJS module. E.g. I use node-fetch in my...

@JumpLink so when it comes down to it, it's really because "this is the new standard" more than anything else, yeah? > The JavaScript world would be much easier and...

> You could also use browser modules in node easier. Generally true until you start having the DOM types show up and Typescript starts throwing errors left and right because...

> @JumpLink summarizes the benefits and one addition to it is the security which is the main concern in the crypto world as many node_modules are easy to introduce threats...

As Kamil has already mentioned, there's concerns around how ESM integrate with Node packages, as you can see in the linked Fastify discussion. I understand that Angular is using ESM,...

I understand it's _possible_, but the question for us as maintainers is what kind of maintenance burden does this bring on us when something goes wrong on the ESM side?...

> @jmcdo29 @kamilmysliwiec Do you guys now have a position on this subject ? This is not my domain of expertise, but I see more and more libraries maintainer are...

Can't you still import mjs file though? Just using the `await import()` method instead of an `import` at the top of the file?

So, if we were to implement this, we'd essentially just end up calling `plainToClass` in the interceptor before re-calling `classToPlain`. If you really wanted, this could be implemented in another...