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@pombredanne Did you create a pull request for this issue? Can you do it?

Was this fixed in https://github.com/buildout/buildout/commit/188827f942938269f0d271c55bb6d8222ee80ebd by @gotcha?

Did you try to use the patch as mentioned in https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/2514#issuecomment-754752765 only to see if it works and maybe we can narrow the problem? Or running a minimal buildout as...

I do believe that this is similar to https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/2514#issuecomment-754752765: a macos + setuptools problem.

@do3cc Not exactly related to this issue, but are you having problems in Plone 5 or 4.3.x? We're using the last https://bootstrap.pypa.io/bootstrap-buildout.py in 4.3.x without problems. We even suggested this...

> I am proposing to remove bootstrap.py completely, because you usually always have pip available. If the idea is to remove bootstrap, It would be nice to add a deprecation...

@gotcha removed `bootstrap.py`. I still see some references to it in the code: https://github.com/buildout/buildout/search?q=bootstrap.py&unscoped_q=bootstrap.py But it doesn't seem to be very relevant. Now the new [dev.py](https://github.com/buildout/buildout/blob/master/dev.py) seems do something very...

@gotcha in a Python 2 compiled by the source (which doesn't come with pip installed), it could install pip and run `pip install zc.buildout`. But after your question, I thought...

@gotcha unfortunately not. But I see that it is out of date (especially now with buildout 3) and is in txt, which makes reading more difficult. I really don't think...

@reinout is it possible to catch the exception when https://bootstrap.pypa.io is down and give the workaround you just gave us in some form of documentation? Is ez_setup.py versioned in https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/raw/bootstrap/ez_setup.py?...