Samuel Stroschein

I stumbled on https://github.com/artalar/reatom which might also be a worth a look - explicit reactivity (vs mobx implicit) - mentions async state solutions that effector apparently fails at - The...

Discussions with @martin-lysk that implicit reactivity (MobX & Signals) seem undesirable _https://www.loom.com/share/260363100ff34d3f850f8a4913c851b5?highlightComment=28441771&t=93_

@jldec wrote in a check in https://discord.com/channels/897438559458430986/1084748995349446667/1202188931362193417 > initial thoughts on reactivity - the apis in solid are not helping us, and I'm not convinced that other similar abstractions like...

Here is an example of "reactivity seems required". Also re-stating that this discussion and the comment regarding "reactive system is somehow needed to propagate changes to consumers" (https://github.com/opral/monorepo/issues/1772#issuecomment-1919193325) applies 1:1...

> @jldec Could you also clarify (or point to issues) why the current [lix fs watch api](https://github.com/opral/monorepo/blob/main/lix/source-code/fs/src/NodeishFilesystemApi.ts#L26) does not meet our needs? It does. My intent was not to surface...

> in fact I expect we'll keep using solid in our UI tier New projects use https://lit.dev/. We want to phase out solid. Just use web components and be done....

Here is an example test that should (must?) pass https://github.com/samuelstroschein/poc-sdk-reactivity with pseudocode, test cases, and a real implementation. cc @janfjohannes @jldec

@martin-lysk > I thought about this and i think we are on a wrong track here. All you propose is what I have in mind. Not sure where we are...

We should probably open a google doc/spreadsheet to collect requirements at this point and have a matrix comparison of potential solutions.

**Sentiment from my after the call earlier today:** Reatom seems to address @martin-lysk's raised issues of concurrency and batching natively. Take a look at the [concurrent API](https://www.reatom.dev/package/effects/#concurrent) and [async package](https://www.reatom.dev/package/async/#withabort)....