Matija Nalis

> As noted above, I think the range here is US-wide. The OSM wiki notes them in Portland, I've seen them in Minnesota, and the approval process was based on...

> They're going to be found primarily when crossing busy roads where there aren't nearby traffic lights (i.e. when crossing [stroads](https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2018/3/1/whats-a-stroad-and-why-does-it-matter)). Maybe turbo overpass has a way to query those...

> "but how do we get people to survey this info?" - Seeing that `armrest` has been added to [id-tagging-schema](https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/blob/87d7b90f93c822c879392466016c55b0e7932905/data/presets/amenity/bench.json#L5), I guess next release of [Every Door](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Every_Door) which fetches it...

- (for those interested, MapComplete has implemented armrests in https://github.com/pietervdvn/MapComplete/pull/2034)

Problematic ideas (IMHO): - _"most boring"_ example is indeed most boring. Does not suit SC "fun" style. - not a big fan of Flo's _"Table with Heatmap"_ either. Too boring....

I've had a vision of Hackers (1995) ["Crash Override beats Acid Burn score"](https://youtu.be/ATlszssL-eI?t=107), but thought it little over the top. It would look quite cool though :smile:

**TL;DR:** I don't think that this proposal would work to entice user to contribute good data to OSM. --- > And yes, any gamification can become addictive. But I'm hard...

**TL;DR:** it seems to be subcategory of `stands`, and is not hugely popular (`0.41%`). Probably better fit for SCEE, as it might be confusing in SC, where `bicycle_parking=stands` is currently...

> stands (German: Bügel) **only attach the frame** I don't know about German wiki, but English wiki for [bicycle_parking=stands](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle_parking=stands) explicitly states: > A bent piece of metal against which you...

@mcliquid thanks for the explanation above, it does make it more clear! I agree that `safe_loops` has advantage over `wall_loops` in that in allows (in addition to wheel) the **frame...