Greg Wilkins

@lorban want to put this on your todo list?

Taking the second question first. The case is possible because a webapplication can itself contain jetty classes within it's WEB-INF/lib. So for example, there could be code within a webapp...

kicking the can along the road....

This can't be automatic.... a lot of these probably can be changed to use nanotime as they are just intervals, but we also do have real need for wall clock...

This is being progressively fixed (see #8067), but will leave open to track progress

@meltsufin is this sufficient to show how JUL can be configured if there is no custom image and no access to the `docker run` command ?

I assume you are adding the jars as nested jars within the springboot jar, which as they say is not going to work as JUL will not see them. Their...

With regards to the lack of enhancer, my experience is that the logs are still accessible, but will not be linked to the nginx request log and may be difficult...

So are you saying that rather than use spring boot nested jars, we create a shaded fat jar with a flat structure. That could possibly work, but would not allow...

@meltsufin I have tested if it is possible to put a simple delegating JUL into `$JAVA_HOME/lib/ext`, which uses the Thread context classpath. This appears to work surprisingly well! By the...