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Thanks - next week I will try reproducing this again and run logdog. Is there a private place I can upload the logs to. Should I open an AWS ticket...

@bcressey can we get an updated BottleRocket release with these K8S versions: https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/issues/118261#issuecomment-1790657622?

> > The problem with how terraform does this, is that it makes refactoring extremely difficult, since the names are based on where they are located (how you compose your...

@jmazzitelli, The challenge is that it's not just that the metric name changes - the fundamental value changes. In this case, we're taking a `counter` with a ton of high...

Yes - I agree that it's not a terribly great situation to be in.. Unfortunately the docs at https://istio.io/latest/docs/ops/best-practices/observability/#federation-using-workload-level-aggregated-metrics do not address the issue with aggregating `counters`... but pre-calculating the...

Even the Istio team points out that this kind of optimization may be necessary at https://istio.io/latest/docs/ops/best-practices/observability/#optimizing-metrics-collection-with-recording-rules..

@jshaughn So - thinking more about this, it seems actually quite reasonable for Kiali to support these pre-aggregated metrics, but at the same time require that the operator include `rate1m`,...

Here's our current set of recording rules.. 1. For `_total` metrics we are recording them as `rate()`... 2. For Histograms and Gauges (`_bucket`, `_count`, `_sum`) we are leaving them as...