Benjamin Pierce

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I've been meaning to complain about this too... :-)

(Just having a fixed set is not all that bad...)

We're out of time for ICFP, but I still want to try experimenting with this.

I think simply making "camera / audio off" be the default when entering a room would be a big improvement -- maybe all we need.

This is fine, but it doesn’t solve the original problem, namely that people often seem to feel shy about joining rooms where other “famous people” are already talking. My original...

Yes, we don’t want this! > (The alternative is some kind of invisible observation mode - which is diabolical because then participants in the room can't tell if who's listening....

> Also, at this stage, creating such a separate mechanism is going to be complex and costly compared to just having a button say "join muted" (which I think achieves...

Maybe “extremely clear” = “labeled ‘just listening’” ? :-)

Showing everyone all the time, even when A/V muted, also wastes screen real estate, which is a precious resource on some devices (not Jon’s :-)…

Yes, I think this would be fine.