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Is this project dead?

Open ausminternet opened this issue 8 years ago • 63 comments

The last commit is almost half a year ago...

ausminternet avatar Apr 25 '16 07:04 ausminternet

The lack of response has me worried.

mattgrande avatar Apr 26 '16 17:04 mattgrande

After about a year of no activity after the first major release, I asked this: https://github.com/zurb/foundation-apps/issues/715

About six months ago they said priorities would shift back to Foundation for Apps but we never saw a release after that.

I'm not confident this will go anywhere... will need to transition my project to something else before we release. Anyone have any good suggestions?

BT-Wolf-00 avatar Apr 26 '16 19:04 BT-Wolf-00

I've ported most of angular-foundation to foundation 6: http://circlingthesun.github.io/angular-foundation-6/

circlingthesun avatar Apr 26 '16 19:04 circlingthesun

It's unfortunate this framework isn't receiving the attention it needs. My company is heavily invested in Foundation 4 Apps and there is no way of switching away from it. Because of this, I've had to take the initiative of fixing framework related issues myself. A large number of these fixes have been sitting in PRs for months.

In order to release quality apps, I've had to use a fork of this framework where I can make necessary fixes. That fork is https://github.com/fiboacademy/foundation-apps/tree/fibo-master. I've been using the framework in production for over a year and really love it, just wish I didn't have to maintain the framework myself.

soumak77 avatar Apr 26 '16 20:04 soumak77

Our UX designer used foundation for apps to prototype our latest app. Imagine my excitement when I realized I could just use these prototypes pretty much as-is, saving me a lot of work. This excitement was short lived though, as I quickly began to run into a lot of the same issues that have been submitted here.

Five months without a commit is not a good sign. It's unfortunate because there is so much potential here.

ashitanojoe avatar Apr 27 '16 08:04 ashitanojoe

Also commented "this repo seems to be dead", back in October in https://github.com/zurb/foundation-apps/pull/710#issuecomment-150998651

At the time we had been waiting for months to see basic fixes being merged.

They are good at promoting their framework and making parties to launch it, but maintaining it is another story... Also invested way too much time to switch to it, now trying to get rid of it since last summer.

laurent-le-graverend avatar Apr 28 '16 08:04 laurent-le-graverend

Somewhere I heard a rumor about a version 2 that they heavily work on, that should be more compatible with foundation-sites 6 and use angular 2. But maybe this also was just something of a dream :D

DaSchTour avatar May 01 '16 18:05 DaSchTour

This is such a great and unique framework. Fell in love with it at first sight. Now the Web will look all the more like Material Design...

tolyo avatar May 01 '16 21:05 tolyo

truth is this is a company owned open-source project and most of contributors behind this project, even contributors who worked in the last released version (1.3) or talked about angular2 are not working with ZURB anymore according to their public personal pages or last github public activities. sadly this is the best front-end framework I ever used but it doesn't belong to its creators or any community. I just wish the owners to not let it die.

tunecino avatar May 01 '16 22:05 tunecino

I was about to start a really big project with this, but I looked at the git changes history and I was scared...

The circlingthesun suggestion, looks a good bet, but is not yet fully converted.

I think I will need to find another framework to work with. Does any one recommend any using angularjs? I'm looking for something not "close", flexible, with all the basic components and that could be easily editable...

napcat avatar May 03 '16 09:05 napcat

@napcat, most angular-foundation components have now been ported to angular-foundation-6. Only ones outstanding is interchange and typeahead. Typeahead was never implemented in the original foundation and interchange should not be big deal. I ported angular-foundation for use in bookem.co.za. I've been running it in production for the last 2 weeks with only minor issues thats now been fixed.

If you are looking for another framework, angular-bootstrap (https://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/) is quite solid. I can't comment on how malleable the bootstrap css is though.

circlingthesun avatar May 03 '16 10:05 circlingthesun

Clearly quite a few of us love the framework overall and want to see it continue. Perhaps we could take it over if Zurb isn't behind it any more...

HoldenCreative avatar May 03 '16 13:05 HoldenCreative

I think the best would be to start an Angular 2 Implementation für Foundation 6 jQuery Components. Biggest benefit with very few CSS-Work.

DaSchTour avatar May 03 '16 14:05 DaSchTour

From what I've heard, they are working on a V2 which will integrate with Angular 2 and share styling from Foundation for Sites 6 as @DaSchTour stated. I completely agree with the approach, but that doesn't mean to abandon V1. For those like me that are using V1 in production code, it is important that bug fixes are still made to the framework (especially when some of these fixes are already done and just waiting to be merged).

soumak77 avatar May 03 '16 14:05 soumak77

I second @DaSchTour. This repo needs a big DEPRECATED warning sign slapped on its description and, as a community, we need to start a new fork without the Foundation tag in its name.

tolyo avatar May 03 '16 21:05 tolyo

If they're working on V2, that's fine... But the lack of communication is extremely unprofessional.

mattgrande avatar May 03 '16 22:05 mattgrande

@mattgrande and I are trying to get in touch with Zurb and give everyone an update ...stay tuned.

HoldenCreative avatar May 10 '16 20:05 HoldenCreative

we need official news from ZURB... we have this framework on production projects...

Gambero81 avatar May 11 '16 09:05 Gambero81

And now we play the waiting game... https://twitter.com/ZURBfoundation/status/730905798465871874

mattgrande avatar May 13 '16 12:05 mattgrande

Thanks! I'm trying to decide in the next 30 days if I should jump ship to http://circlingthesun.github.io/angular-foundation-6/ or see if this will be brought back from the dead. Sadly it was pretty much dead immediately after the initial announcement years ago...

BT-Wolf-00 avatar May 14 '16 00:05 BT-Wolf-00

I wonder how this will go. I really enjoyed developing the original base Angular for the library.

AntJanus avatar May 14 '16 04:05 AntJanus

Yes, it's dead.

BT-Wolf-00 avatar Jun 10 '16 23:06 BT-Wolf-00

It's dead, Jim.

SCKelemen avatar Jun 10 '16 23:06 SCKelemen

Sounds like it's time for the community to take it over? I'm heavily reliant on the framework and can't give it up, so I'll need to maintain it myself anyway. The framework is pretty solid for what its worth (after all the bug fixes I've made).

soumak77 avatar Jun 10 '16 23:06 soumak77

Does someone from the community have commit rights? Otherwise, its a new fork under a new name. Something with Angular in it.

tolyo avatar Jun 12 '16 05:06 tolyo

There is an official communication from zurb about project state?

Gambero81 avatar Jun 12 '16 12:06 Gambero81

They have been nearly silent since the first day this was released... and now won't provide updates via direct twitter request and (obviously) the frustration on github. So no, they refuse to respond but happily sucker people in via their website that don't realize that it's been dead since it was released.

So it would be great if someone could fork it and at least apply all of the recent pull requests. Was a big Foundation for Sites supporter, but obviously this behavior has soured the angular community....

BT-Wolf-00 avatar Jun 12 '16 14:06 BT-Wolf-00

A simple fork won't do as we need new npm and bower packages.

tolyo avatar Jun 12 '16 14:06 tolyo

@tolyo I still have rights to the project but I don't believe it'd be appropriate for me to contribute.

I think an open-source fork would do it. Just do a fork, call it "open-foundation-apps" or base-apps, replace the prefix zf with of/ba and go for it. I'm not sure if foundation is trademarked but I doubt it.

If no one is interested in taking on that responsibility, I'd be happy to fork it under a new org name, publish the new packages to bower/npm, manage rights to the new repo and open it to you guys, etc. I just don't have time to actively contribute.

In fact, if I can get at least a few people to support showand help me come with a name, we can do this ASAP that way the project can live on in true open source fashion.

I have an org that I haven't used in forever called Lernaean and I can fork foundation-apps and the entire suite (the CLI, gulp plugin, etc.) there replacing the word foundation with base just to avoid confusion, give proper credit, and we can all get going from there. But I'm open to other suggestions (a new org name, naming conventions, etc.).

@soumak77, @tolyo, @HoldenCreative, @tunecino , what do you guys think?

AntJanus avatar Jun 13 '16 04:06 AntJanus

I'm all for getting the process started on migrating this framework away from ZURB. If we're going to maintain an open source version, I wouldn't mind taking that over. I'm actively working on apps which fully depend on the framework, so I would love to see it get the attention it needs.

I've been maintaining my own custom build of the framework which is used in all apps I develop at Fibo. These apps have been running in production for over a year and a half, so I trust this build of the framework far more than the current state of the foundation apps master. As such, I would highly suggest using this build as the base for the framework going forward.

In terms of org, we could use the FiboAcademy organization where I maintain my custom build and apps. I'm fine with whatever name is chosen, though perhaps something with angular would be appropriate, maybe angular-apps. I'm not too keen on changing the naming convention from zf to something else. It would be a real pain for those of us trying to migrate to the new framework. It would also be annoying for those that start using foundation apps thinking it is still being maintained, then find this new open source version that requires them to change all the code they wrote. I think a drop in replacement for 1.2 (or as close to it as possible) should be the first version of this new framework.

soumak77 avatar Jun 13 '16 07:06 soumak77