Undocumented name space / import issues between Zope 2 and 4

[jugmac00]

Hi,

with Zope 2 some symbols were readily available for use - even without importing them.

I recall DateTime and maybe others. (test?)

While this always confused me, and I am happy they are gone, could we please add a note to the upgrade instruction from Zope 2 to 4 / 5??

https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/migrations/zope4/index.html

Maybe somebody knows what has changed exactly or where to look for.

I just stumbled over a NameError: name 'DateTime' is not defined in one untested and rarely used template of my app.

Thank you!

P.S.: Now, this is crazy.

I just created a test to reproduce the issue and the test works - with no modification for Python 3, but for Python 2 it fails with the same NameError.

[goschtl]

The namespace stuff itself is a really nice thing but "it fly's a bit under radar". I thought always it would be a nice idea to add an Adapter to modifiy/include stuff in the namespace. Think on the principal or a library to format values...

tal:content="principal.id" tal:content="format.to_german(item.price)" etc...

[d-maurer]

Jürgen Gmach wrote at 2020-4-1 05:58 -0700:

with Zope 2 some symbols were readily available for use - even without importing them.

I recall DateTime and maybe others. (test?)

While this always confused me, and I am happy they are gone, could we please add a note to the upgrade instruction from Zope 2 to 4 / 5??

https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/migrations/zope4/index.html

Maybe somebody knows what has changed exactly or where to look for.

I believe that those symbols have been injected by the DTML implementation.

RestrictedPython has a base notion of what is safe to use. In the Zope world, AccessControl imports the corresponding variable (as safe_builtins, or similarly spelled) and significantly adapts/extends it. Formerly, the DTML implementation has added its own symbols as well, among them test.