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Windows AV blocking opening zen.exe due to virus/trojan found in the executable.

Open TrueHerobrine opened this issue 1 year ago • 118 comments

zen

TrueHerobrine avatar Jul 06 '24 20:07 TrueHerobrine

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virus detection websites dont detect anything so I dont know why is windows AV complaining...

mr-cheffy avatar Jul 06 '24 20:07 mr-cheffy

I might try to whitelist the exe. I'll get back with an update.

TrueHerobrine avatar Jul 06 '24 21:07 TrueHerobrine

Update: Just tried again without adding an exception and it works flawlessly. TLDR: Windows is weird.

TrueHerobrine avatar Jul 06 '24 21:07 TrueHerobrine

Windows is weird. Thanks a lot for trying it out!

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mr-cheffy avatar Jul 06 '24 21:07 mr-cheffy

No worries! Found it on Reddit and was actually very impressed. I have my own browser but I'm not forking it off of anything, so it's cool to see an indie browser thriving like this!

TrueHerobrine avatar Jul 06 '24 21:07 TrueHerobrine

In the last 30 minutes, while I was accessing a site, using version 1.0.0-a.29 (64-bit), Windows Defender terminated the App and deleted the core executable.

DavidGreen63 avatar Aug 26 '24 00:08 DavidGreen63

Same happened to me. Admittedly my Defender is very weird and Windows Security crashes when I try to open it, so I can't open the UI to add exclusions or inspect things that way, but a.28 works

clembu avatar Aug 26 '24 01:08 clembu

It happened to me too, mine Zen was flagged by Kaspersky when I tried to import data from another browser.

danmaxis avatar Aug 26 '24 02:08 danmaxis

Windows 11 Version 10.0.22631 Build 22631

Zen was installed directly from the website. https://www.zen-browser.app/

Windows Defender Picked it up as soon as I opened Zen.exe

Trojan Name = "Wacatac.B!ml"

I dont want to be excluding something with that name, a quick google search will show you this is a popular one.

Meathelix1 avatar Aug 26 '24 02:08 Meathelix1

I have the same problem, first the core executable was deleted and then a can't download the installer :/

Xavi-X333 avatar Aug 26 '24 02:08 Xavi-X333

Maybe it is an issue that will fade once Zen gets a signature, but as it stands, its normal operations are being flagged as Malware/Trojan like. I think I'll look into Zen again once it gets a little less alpha or beta-ish.

DavidGreen63 avatar Aug 26 '24 02:08 DavidGreen63

The Generic Version does not pick up as a Trojan. It's just the Optimized Version.

Meathelix1 avatar Aug 26 '24 02:08 Meathelix1

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Virustotal is also showing it as some trojan script. Are all of these just false positives?

HamzaConcepts avatar Aug 26 '24 04:08 HamzaConcepts

Check this information: https://virustotal.readme.io/docs/false-positive

and try also analyzing the file in other places like:

https://internxt.com/virus-scanner

https://opentip.kaspersky.com/

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extropyst avatar Aug 26 '24 06:08 extropyst

Getting blocked for me too.

jakehower avatar Aug 26 '24 06:08 jakehower

Exactly the same problem as others are having. Also the installer is detected as PUA:Win32/Packunwan. Idk but I'm not satisfied with the answer "Windows is weird". I guess we're going to wait until this exe and thing are going to be signed and stuff. Peace.

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soulhax avatar Aug 26 '24 09:08 soulhax

afbeelding Same issue here, it worked just fine when I installed it on my desktop but my laptop refuses installing it.

MatfenV1 avatar Aug 26 '24 09:08 MatfenV1

Same here (Windows 11 Pro 23h2) image

Abelkrijgtalles avatar Aug 26 '24 09:08 Abelkrijgtalles

Just wanted to report that this is still happening. System: Windows 11 Pro 22H2 Build: 22621.3880

J-Cake avatar Aug 26 '24 09:08 J-Cake

I also get this same trojan script, this made me uninstall zen immediately

MikeyA-yo avatar Aug 26 '24 09:08 MikeyA-yo

Could this maybe have a connection to the new windows defender update? 1.0.0-a.29 was released 2 days ago, but this problem only started about 9 hours ago.

EDIT: The latest update I've installed (defender version 1.417.317.0), doesn't include anything about Trojan:Script/Wacatac.B!ml.

Abelkrijgtalles avatar Aug 26 '24 09:08 Abelkrijgtalles

Just tried to install the Zen browser on a Windows 10 and it blocks it claiming that there's a "PUA:Win32/Packunwan" virus

alexugthub avatar Aug 26 '24 09:08 alexugthub

I am on Win 10 Pro, and after the core executable was annexed, I attempted to uninstall. The uninstall would not function, which did surprise me. Maybe the missing file was causing the uninstaller to fail. I just deleted the folder where the application had been stored. Judging from the previous posts on this thread, I will definitely consider carefully before any re-install before a signed binary is available.

DavidGreen63 avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 DavidGreen63

Has anyone tried to build it from source to check if the issue still there?

Abelkrijgtalles avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 Abelkrijgtalles

What's the problem exactly? that it's not signed?

mr-cheffy avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 mr-cheffy

im going to release today, see if that fixes it?

mr-cheffy avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 mr-cheffy

What's the problem exactly? that it's not signed?

That is one of the theories (EDIT: or maybe the only one), but Windows is just very silent and gives no information about the trojan

Abelkrijgtalles avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 Abelkrijgtalles

From my experience as a Windows app developer there are two major things:

  • The installer/exe at least should be signed to avoid any issues with SmartScreen. Having an EV certificate helps even more because the reputation in SmartScreen starts higher already.
  • AV false positives in MSI files are quite common. Almost every MSI release I make on Windows has one or two false positives in VirusTotal (out of > 70 AV tools). I haven't found a way to prevent or a root cause for those false positives. Depending on the AV tool complaining you can submit/contact the AV vendor with a link to the VirusTotal page and report a false positive.

StefanKoell avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 StefanKoell

where do I get the license key though? Im very confused I cant find any docs about it

mr-cheffy avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 mr-cheffy

@mauro-balades what license key are you referring to? Couldn't find any mention of a license in this thread.

StefanKoell avatar Aug 26 '24 10:08 StefanKoell