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[META] Reworks Meta Service to be less bad and also reworks science too a little to fit it and more stuff

Open ToasterBiome opened this issue 1 year ago • 11 comments

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I played an entire round roleplaying in the "club" and nobody talked to me except a HOS (cool) and the bartender to refill my drink. I determined this is because ~~we are a low RP server~~ there is literally no way to see who is in this location because it's comically removed from the rest of, well everything. This takes a page out of TG's metastation (which is very nice I might add) to rework it into something better.

image There's now a service back room, bar based off of TG, redone hydroponics to fit better, 1 maint room as removed and had to be shuffled around. Maint is kinda empty but I can add to it

image Moves janitor closet to be where science sec used to be. Moved science sec to where the break room used to be (sorry) and turned the experimentor room on it's side to fit.

image Artist's coven is here now.

Changelog

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mapping: reworks metastation service area mapping: reworks science sec/experimentor area on meta mapping: moves artists coven on meta /:cl:

ToasterBiome avatar Oct 08 '22 07:10 ToasterBiome

Really not a fan of there not actually being a smartfridge in the kitchen, and not sure why there aren't two sets of Botany vendors any more. Also, did you remove one Botanist spawn?

Cartlord avatar Oct 08 '22 09:10 Cartlord

Regarding the intent of this P.R.: I think MetaStation's bar being largely ignored may be due to its placement on the station rather than any finer details of the bar layout, as you don't pass by it unless you're going south from Engineering or southeast from Sec, while anyone going to Medical, Sci, or Evac on BoxStation will pass by the bar.

Cartlord avatar Oct 08 '22 09:10 Cartlord

Also, did you remove one Botanist spawn?

I actually forgot the botanist spawns which I have to add :)

and not sure why there aren't two sets of Botany vendors any more.

There hasn't been two since janitor's room needed to be expanded, there's still garden

ToasterBiome avatar Oct 08 '22 19:10 ToasterBiome

Regarding the intent of this P.R.: I think MetaStation's bar being largely ignored may be due to its placement on the station rather than any finer details of the bar layout, as you don't pass by it unless you're going south from Engineering or southeast from Sec, while anyone going to Medical, Sci, or Evac on BoxStation will pass by the bar.

A step to help mitigate its poor placement is actually being able to see who's in it besides the very front area and only from one direction

ToasterBiome avatar Oct 08 '22 19:10 ToasterBiome

good pr since the lounge is totally blocked off from other rooms and nobody has a reason to go inside it normally

LazennG avatar Oct 09 '22 00:10 LazennG

I would suggest moving the smartfridge to the Kitchen's side of the service hall so Chefs don't have to walk as much to get ingredients (keep in mind they don't have a plant bag by default), and maybe adding more Hydroponics trays or moving the existing ones to be closer to the smartfridge. You might also want to remove one Chef spawn - the Kitchen only has one or two of each machine, so a third one should probably only be there if one of the existing two dies or fucks off into maints, and the Head of Personnel can open another job-slot if that happens. I'm a big fan of the service hall itself being within view of both Hydroponics and the Kitchen, since that reduces the odds of some asshole breaking in to use the lathes. I don't know how many Botanist spawns are supposed to be there, and the webmap doesn't show the spawns we have on current Meta, but whatever number you decide on, you should probably also have that exact number of lockers, just so everyone gets the same tools - and yes, I know that that would also mean more data disks, and make the Botanical Technology node even less important. I don't think that matters, because that node already barely matters.

Cartlord avatar Oct 09 '22 05:10 Cartlord

keep in mind spawners dont dictate job slots; that's a map config thing

VaelophisNyx avatar Oct 09 '22 05:10 VaelophisNyx

i was not aware

Cartlord avatar Oct 09 '22 06:10 Cartlord

mhm, that's why I was letting you know it's maybe unintuitive but definitely nice since we can make 12 botanist spawns and not have 12 botanists.

VaelophisNyx avatar Oct 09 '22 08:10 VaelophisNyx

I kinda like how the theater room is separated by doors in default meta, just saying it's not a bad idea to make Bar/Kitchen/Theater better. But I think the theater being seperated by airlocks and walls makes sense.

RG4ORDR avatar Oct 10 '22 01:10 RG4ORDR

image

The one tile under the crate is considered space, not part of the maint area.

Mqiib avatar Oct 23 '22 02:10 Mqiib

I think having a window at the service to kitchen area would be nice so the botanista can ask the cook if they need plants easier

SomeguyManperson avatar Oct 27 '22 05:10 SomeguyManperson

Chefs room looks a little small, other then that, what other people said here should be taken into consideration

JamieD1 avatar Oct 29 '22 13:10 JamieD1

I believe I have created a superior version: image

@Cartlord I have shortened the service area to have a connecting space between the chef area and the hydroponics area.

I think having a window at the service to kitchen area would be nice so the botanista can ask the cook if they need plants easier

See above, I think this is a better solution than adding a window

Chefs room looks a little small, other then that, what other people said here should be taken into consideration

I have expanded the Chef area slightly, including the freezer, to better give available space for chefs to work.

ToasterBiome avatar Nov 09 '22 02:11 ToasterBiome