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Should there be good standing / supermajority criteria in authoritative ballots?

Open michaelchampion opened this issue 7 years ago • 4 comments

Appeals of a Director decision are the only place in the W3C Process where voting is used to authoritatively decide issues. Some organizations use "good standing" criteria to help ensure that those voting on authoritative ballots are active members and can thus be assumed to understand the organization's culture and the details of what is being addressed in a ballot. W3C itself once defined good standing criteria in WG ballots, although that was seldom enforced.

A related question is whether a supermajority (often 2/3 of votes cast) should be required to overturn a Director's decision.

While consensus is highly unlikely in time for Process 2018, the Process CG, AB, and AC should investigate what criteria other organizations use in authoritative ballots, whether they could feasibly be applied to W3C, and whether it would be consistent with W3C's principles and culture to apply these criteria in appeal ballots.

michaelchampion avatar Sep 07 '17 16:09 michaelchampion

see also #131 , super-majority for appeal. we'll track this bug as being the good-standing/voting-criteria question.

see the questions at https://www.w3.org/wiki/Process2018#.2348_The_appeals_process_doesn.27t_actually_describe_how_an_appeal_finishes_2

dwsinger avatar Dec 14 '17 22:12 dwsinger

IMHO we should close this issue, since it seems we are unlikely to reach consensus on such a change.

If that changes, we can re-open or make a new issue.

chaals avatar Nov 29 '18 02:11 chaals

This should really be looked at more in the context of director-free.

jeffjaffe avatar Jul 15 '20 14:07 jeffjaffe

The Revising W3C Process CG just discussed Good Standing.

The full IRC log of that discussion <fantasai> Topic: Good Standing
<wseltzer> +1 to close
<jeff> q+
<fantasai> github: https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/76
<fantasai> fantasai: This is open in the AB. Shouldn't close.
<fantasai> fantasai: AB can discuss here if it wants. either way should tag to AB issue.
<fantasai> jeff: We're looking at Director-free.
<fantasai> jeff: Since related to overturning Director's decision, propose closing.
<dsinger_> ack jeff
<fantasai> tantek: I agree with Jeff's reasoning, if we do Director-free then this issue becomes irrelevant.
<wseltzer> +1 to close
<jeff> [I'm OK with that]
<fantasai> fantasai: When are we implementing Director-free? I don't think we should close it. Don't need to prioritize to P2021, but don't agree to close.
<fantasai> dsinger_: OK, retagging to director-free

css-meeting-bot avatar Jul 15 '20 14:07 css-meeting-bot

Closing, no discussion here for more than 2 years, and the AB seems to be discussing it in their private space.

michaelchampion avatar Feb 16 '23 18:02 michaelchampion