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[Feature Request] Export/Import Block List

Open 100chilly opened this issue 1 year ago • 1 comments

Explain in detail what your suggested feature would be used for. A simple export/import of your block list in different file formats.

Describe how it would look if it requires a UI. N/A

Explain why people would want to use it. For people who want a fresh start without the bullshit of drama starters, problematic people, etc. This is an easy way to just transfer from one account to another.

100chilly avatar Sep 30 '24 04:09 100chilly

Bulk moderation is a bit tricky, and from my foggy memory about it, is something VRChat isn't fond of. From what was discussed in the discord, it being something that can affect someone's trust ranking, also doesn't help.

DubyaDude avatar Sep 30 '24 14:09 DubyaDude

PLEASE ADD THIS! IT IS SO IMPORTANT!

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 06:10 plautus2

omg, o h my god. Most needed feature, they refuse to add. THis is laughable

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 plautus2

we are not inclined to add features you request, VRCX is a free application, if you want this feature add it yourself.

Myrkie avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 Myrkie

sure, I go spent hundrets of hours into learning how to program just so I can add this block/mute list ex/importer, even thought u could just add it in a couple minutes. sure....

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 plautus2

omg, o h my god. Most needed feature, they refuse to add. THis is laughable

who are you

ScruffyRules avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 ScruffyRules

at this point I think it's just fear of the vrx developers. They are scared their program might be moderated or something by the vrchat team. Absoloute cowardish. I doubt they ever do anything daring!

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 plautus2

sure, I go spent hundrets of hours into learning how to program just so I can add this block/mute list ex/importer, even thought u could just add it in a couple minutes. sure....

Here you go, have fun.

app.js

SalbugVR avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 SalbugVR

omg, o h my god. Most needed feature, they refuse to add. THis is laughable

lol

GroovyTeacup avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 GroovyTeacup

u guys should retire, if u cant even make a block/mute list import/export mechanic

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 plautus2

at this point I think it's just fear of the vrx developers. They are scared their program might be moderated or something by the vrchat team. Absoloute cowardish. I doubt they ever do anything daring!

Hi, VRCX team has direct communication to VRChat's staff they routinely talk with us since VRCX has reached a large amount of users. this is not assumptions VRChat has asked us in the past to make changes to VRCX and expressed displeasure in adding the feature automated moderation, we are not adding the feature for this reason.

Myrkie avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 Myrkie

communicate with them again, stop being a coward. VRchat staff must think they got u on the balls at this point and can order u to do or change anything they want u to

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 plautus2

u guys should retire, if u cant even make a block/mute list import/export mechanic

You’re welcome to fork the VRCX project and implement this feature yourself if you’d like. However, the maintainers have decided not to include this feature, as it can be easily abused and may put its users at risk of being flagged for moderation. Thank you for understanding.

SalbugVR avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 SalbugVR

emphasize on 'MAY' put a user at risk, not 'DOES".

rename urself to CowardVR

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 07:10 plautus2

I hope you're just a troll at this point

OctoFloofy avatar Oct 31 '24 08:10 OctoFloofy

From what was discussed in the discord, it being something that can affect someone's trust ranking, also doesn't help.

This is a complete invalid statement, since they can simply add a warning message to the use of this feature emphazising its risk, so everyone can decide for himself if he wants to make use of it or not.

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 09:10 plautus2

From what was discussed in the discord, it being something that can affect someone's trust ranking, also doesn't help.

so everyone can decide for himself if he wants to make use of it or not.

It's not just about an individual deciding whether they want to use it. The main concern is that simply having an abusable mass-moderation system within the program would be enough of a red flag for VRChat to take action against VRCX and its users. Either way, VRChat would likely instruct the maintainers to remove it, and they would, of course, comply. We’re sorry, but we don’t intend to drag the application's users down due to a lack of foresight on your part.

Again, if you want this functionality, consider learning to code, forking the project, and implementing it yourself.

SalbugVR avatar Oct 31 '24 09:10 SalbugVR

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 plautus2

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

applying moderation's against any users affects their rank such as blocking and muting, VRChat is very much against this and any sort of automated moderation's can be abused or used in a targeted manor (KOS Lists) thus why VRChat has expressed a dislike in the idea in the past.

Myrkie avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 Myrkie

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

VRCX can't just transfer the entirety of your blocks, it has to re-do every block individually one by one, which is spammy especially if you have a lot of blocks. :p

regalialong avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 regalialong

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

Simply put, users could create KOS lists from this if the blocks and mutes lists were made exportable and importable as file formats and then shared around. This would also place a heavy load on their servers due to the high volume of API calls resulting from user moderation actions occurring simultaneously.

SalbugVR avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 SalbugVR

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

applying moderation's against any users affects their rank such as blocking and muting, VRChat is very much against this and any sort of automated moderation's can be abused or used in a targeted manor (KOS Lists) thus why VRChat has expressed a dislike in the idea in the past.

I could simply reblock everyone, that would also affect their rank. But why when it can be achieved in a better way. If I really wanna hurt a user, I make 100 accounts, and block on all of these accounts a certain user. But who would do that>?! What u say makes 0 sense again.

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 plautus2

To put it simply for you

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

Simply put, users could create KOS lists from this if the blocks and mutes lists were made exportable and importable as file formats. This would also place a heavy load on their servers due to the high volume of API calls resulting from user moderation actions occurring simultaneously.

this isnt even remotely possible

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 plautus2

To put it simply for you

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

Simply put, users could create KOS lists from this if the blocks and mutes lists were made exportable and importable as file formats. This would also place a heavy load on their servers due to the high volume of API calls resulting from user moderation actions occurring simultaneously.

this isnt even remotely possible

It's simple math really. Easier to use = more usage A single block from you is nothing, but a block list circulating is potentially several hundred of users blocking the same person

Turretoforth avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 Turretoforth

let them block. It's their loss

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 plautus2

For what it's worth, VRCX also already has a high support volume. Giving users a footgun will eventually cause users to trickle in that managed to shoot themselves, it's practically in the best interest of nobody.

regalialong avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 regalialong

To put it simply for you

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

Simply put, users could create KOS lists from this if the blocks and mutes lists were made exportable and importable as file formats. This would also place a heavy load on their servers due to the high volume of API calls resulting from user moderation actions occurring simultaneously.

this isnt even remotely possible

In your other responses, you mention that you don’t understand and that it makes no sense to you, yet you’re telling me this isn’t even remotely possible? So you're telling me you do understand.

SalbugVR avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 SalbugVR

To put it simply for you

how is this abuse? I am not talking to mass block all users in a room, im talking about transfering my own block lists. Nothiung u've staied or these other guys said remotely make any sense.

Simply put, users could create KOS lists from this if the blocks and mutes lists were made exportable and importable as file formats. This would also place a heavy load on their servers due to the high volume of API calls resulting from user moderation actions occurring simultaneously.

this isnt even remotely possible

In your other responses, you mention that you don’t understand and that it makes no sense to you, yet you’re telling me this isn’t even remotely possible? So you're telling me you do understand.

No point creating KOS list, when u can make one of ur own and import

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 plautus2

No point creating KOS list, when u can make one of ur own and import

so you can implement the feature yourself? great, looking forward to the pull request. cheers!

Myrkie avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 Myrkie

I know u guys can

plautus2 avatar Oct 31 '24 10:10 plautus2