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2021 Ibiza - No Display

Open Bonser41 opened this issue 3 years ago • 43 comments

HI and thank you for this brilliant project.

I have built the circuit and installed it in my 2021 Ibiza model. This one has airjets only (no hydrojets) and the pump model number is S100102. I programmed it as a Miami 2021 model which was the closest option I could see. The web interface is working fine and I can update the software OTA. When I turn the unit on, it plays the usual tune and then beeps every now and then. BUT I have absolutely nothing on the screen. No lights or display whatsoever. I've checked all connnections as best I can and everything looks fine. I suspect a faulty voltage converter and have ordered another to test. But in the meantime, does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to fault find the problem? Many thanks in advance.

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Bonser41 avatar Sep 13 '21 20:09 Bonser41

Thank you @Bonser41 Firat check hardwares for faults. Then maybe try 560 ohms resistors btw LLC and dsp. Some ppl reported that to solve a flicker problem

visualapproach avatar Sep 14 '21 05:09 visualapproach

Thanks. I did see the thread about inserting resistors but it always seems to be to correct a flickering screen rather than a dead one. I'll try different leads and converter first then add the resistors. Fingers crossed. I did notice that when my device is connected the Web interface reports the correct water temperature but that's about the sum of the communication at this point.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 14 '21 05:09 Bonser41

Well I've gone over it again in detail again and tried the following combinations:

  • With and without 3 x 560 ohm resistors between LLC and DSP
  • With and without the normal 10k resistor on the board
  • Repaced the LLC with a brand new one - same one used by others on this forum https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07DK6QGHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  • Even built a completely new board and fitted new cables just to be absolutely sure.

But still no sign of life on the pump display, which remains completely dead. Not a flash of lights, nothing. When I turn the pump on, I get the melody and lots of "clicking" sounds for about 30 seconds interspersed with occasional beeps. The web page is then available, with the temperature showing. No other controls on the web interface work.

My pump is the same model number (S100102) as this one I found on a previous thread: https://github.com/visualapproach/WiFi-remote-for-Bestway-Lay-Z-SPA/issues/54

So I don't understand why I'm getting no output to the display - my pump is brand new this month, so I guess it may be possible Bestway have modified the display or software in some way. Not sure what else I can do, unfortunately. I'm good with a soldering iron and fine with uploading software, etc, but useless at fault finding electronic issues and don't want to risk bricking my brand new pump ;-(

Any suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 14 '21 21:09 Bonser41

I assume the display is working when ESP device is removed? Strange. Bestway has changed stuff but so far it has only been other codes for the buttons and similar. It should still light up some segments. The clicking sound is a bit suspicious. You could visit the webpage 192.168.your.ip/debug.html I don't know what we'd expect there, but maybe there is a clue.

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Other than that, I'm not sure. Is your BWC_8266_globals.h file looking like this? If you get it running and the buttons don't do what they are supposed to do, you can try the Maldives and change HASJETS to FALSE further down in the code.

...
//uncomment your model and comment out the rest
//#define PRE2021			//the older one, no hydrojets
#define MIAMI2021		//no hydrojets
//#define MALDIVES2021	//hydrojets

visualapproach avatar Sep 15 '21 20:09 visualapproach

Thanks for your suggestions. I'll run the debug tomorrow and post the results. The display works perfectly as soon as the ESP is removed and my BEC_8266_globals.h file is exactly as your sample above.

As far as I can see the 5v and GND are passed straight through on your circuit from CIO to DSP so I'd at least expect the display to come to life even if the rest of it has been updated by Bestway. I wonder if they have done something to deliberately cripple this hack?

It would be nice to prove my circuit works with an older model, so if I continue to have problems I'm happy to send it free of charge if someone can fit and prove it. They can keep it as a reward for doing so. At lest we get some feedback and confirmation that Bestway have indeed updated their device. I have spare boards to build another if and when we get to the bottom of it.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 15 '21 21:09 Bonser41

Good afternoon. So, I plugged the unit back in and fired it up. I got the usual melody playing but no screen activity. I then videoed the "ticking and beeping" sounds so you can hear what I mean - maybe this gives a clue? You have to turn up the volume quite high to hear it sorry.

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/78241508/133652376-a30bb665-7a80-48ec-a0ff-2ab242a70988.mp4

I then tried to access the web page which works:

Screenshot Controler

Then tried the debug page but it errors - see below:

Screenshot Debug page

I'll try setting is as a Maldeves without jets, but I would assume this is very unlikely to have any effect.

Thanks again.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 16 '21 16:09 Bonser41

Debug is no error. It is an instruction.

visualapproach avatar Sep 16 '21 17:09 visualapproach

Sorry for beeing short, I was in a hurry. In the debug page you have to show the developer's console. There you will see a flow of messages which you could post here. Did you try running the ESP @160 MHz as suggested in #54 ?

visualapproach avatar Sep 17 '21 11:09 visualapproach

I have the same thing happening with me but without any of the beeps happening on startup. Same device model (S100102), tried the change to put it to 160 MHz with no change. I also get the odd clicking happening like a relay is being switched. I've not had chance to look at the console while attached to the pump yet.

SRowley90 avatar Sep 17 '21 12:09 SRowley90

Sorry for beeing short, I was in a hurry. In the debug page you have to show the developer's console. There you will see a flow of messages which you could post here. Did you try running the ESP @160 MHz as suggested in #54 ?

Sorry, I missed your reply. I'll check the console later today and report back. Thanks.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 20 '21 11:09 Bonser41

I have the same thing happening with me but without any of the beeps happening on startup. Same device model (S100102), tried the change to put it to 160 MHz with no change. I also get the odd clicking happening like a relay is being switched. I've not had chance to look at the console while attached to the pump yet.

OK that's interesting to know. Is your pump new in the last few months like mine?

Bonser41 avatar Sep 20 '21 11:09 Bonser41

I have the same thing happening with me but without any of the beeps happening on startup. Same device model (S100102), tried the change to put it to 160 MHz with no change. I also get the odd clicking happening like a relay is being switched. I've not had chance to look at the console while attached to the pump yet.

OK that's interesting to know. Is your pump new in the last few months like mine?

Yes, start of summer this year. Got the Fiji model in the UK. Would hazard a guess we have the same pump.

SRowley90 avatar Sep 20 '21 12:09 SRowley90

OK here is the debug info in the hope it helps with some clues?

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Bonser41 avatar Sep 20 '21 16:09 Bonser41

Also tried 160MHz setting and tried setting it to Maldives model and disabling the hydrojets. No luck I'm afraid. The screen stays completely off ;-(

Bonser41 avatar Sep 20 '21 17:09 Bonser41

Okay, did you press any buttons on the pump display whilst recording the debug sequence?

visualapproach avatar Sep 20 '21 18:09 visualapproach

I noticed the button press events in the log too, I didn’t have it connected up to the pump and still got them.

SRowley90 avatar Sep 20 '21 18:09 SRowley90

@SRowley90 If the dsp is not connected there will be random bits on the input. With the dsp connected the button code should be 1B1B when no buttons are pressed. I wonder if those lines needs pull-up/down resistors. Just thinking out loud. I guess it would be harmless to connect the three data lines to either GND or 5V through a 10KOhms resistor (per line). LLC----DSP        |10K Gnd or 5V

?

visualapproach avatar Sep 20 '21 18:09 visualapproach

Okay, did you press any buttons on the pump display whilst recording the debug sequence?

No, I didn't touch anything whilst recording the sequence.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 20 '21 18:09 Bonser41

Okay, did you press any buttons on the pump display whilst recording the debug sequence?

No, I didn't touch anything whilst recording the sequence.

@Bonser41 Okay see my thoughts above.

visualapproach avatar Sep 20 '21 18:09 visualapproach

I might need a little bit of hand holding, which are the data lines?

SRowley90 avatar Sep 20 '21 18:09 SRowley90

OK, I tried 5v pull-up 10K resistors on the three data lines to the DSP and posted the log below: I'll try pull down when I get a moment. Not sure if this gives us any more clues ?

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Bonser41 avatar Sep 21 '21 19:09 Bonser41

Tried pull down and it fails to boot when connected to the pump, but boots fine when off the pump.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 21 '21 19:09 Bonser41

Ok thanks for trying. When I get some time I'll see if I can arrange something to find the problem.

visualapproach avatar Sep 21 '21 19:09 visualapproach

OK thank you for your continued assistance. I love the project and really want to do what I can to help solve the mystery. I'm happy to post you my complete board so you can double-check it is all correct ?- You don't need to send it back - I have another. Otherwise, I'll sit tight and monitor the forum until someone more technical than me can ID the issue. Thanks again.

Bonser41 avatar Sep 21 '21 20:09 Bonser41

OK thank you for your continued assistance. I love the project and really want to do what I can to help solve the mystery. I'm happy to post you my complete board so you can double-check it is all correct ?- You don't need to send it back - I have another. Otherwise, I'll sit tight and monitor the forum until someone more technical than me can ID the issue. Thanks again.

@Bonser41 yes, but you can hold on to your device a while. I think we can test something by software first, but I need some free time to tinker with it...

visualapproach avatar Sep 24 '21 11:09 visualapproach

Hi, Thank you for this fantastic project and the work you put into it. I bought a spa at the Action https://shop.action.com/nl-nl/p/8711252249490/dreamstream-oplaagbaar-Jacuzzi This includes a model 2021 pump. Built your project as a 6 wire version with the 1k resistors between the ESP and LLC. The software that I have loaded into it is the development brance. And set as MIAMI2021. Unfortunately the display doesn't work for me either.

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AlbertDijksma avatar Oct 11 '21 12:10 AlbertDijksma

Hi, I forgot to mention that there is no sound either. I replaced the resistors from 1k to 510ohm. Now the sound works and the display also gives more life. The display is now blinking strangely.

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AlbertDijksma avatar Oct 11 '21 13:10 AlbertDijksma

Hi @AlbertDijksma and thx! You can replace the resistors with 0 Ohms (wires) instead. Might increase your luck a little. It would be nice if you could find out the part number on the display driver chip. It should look something like this and have traces going to the 6-wire connector. It may not be readable or it would require you to remove the goo which you shouldn't do. But if it's accessible that would be good. image

visualapproach avatar Oct 11 '21 17:10 visualapproach

And - you can also try putting 3 of your 500 Ohms resistors between the LLC and the DSP. Some ppl cured the blinking that way.

visualapproach avatar Oct 11 '21 17:10 visualapproach

Hi, I have removed the 3 resistors between lcc and the esp for the display. I can now operate the keys and read the temp on the display. The display and buttons still flash, but a lot less. Tomorrow I will put resistors between the lcc and the display module. I will also open up a display to find out the components.

AlbertDijksma avatar Oct 11 '21 18:10 AlbertDijksma