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run macOS 26 via macOS 15.5?

Open vade opened this issue 6 months ago • 8 comments

Hi

Not sure if this is feasible, but it would be nice to run a beta of Tahoe off of 15.5

Ive tried using the IPSW, and i get a Install Prompt

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Clicking Yes gets me (eventually)

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and

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vade avatar Jun 10 '25 22:06 vade

Did you install the latest Xcode beta?

osy avatar Jun 10 '25 23:06 osy

No, but I did find out that it works if you install 15.5, enable beta updates, and then do an update to 26 (im in the process as we speak)

vade avatar Jun 10 '25 23:06 vade

If it's the same as previous releases, you need the latest Xcode beta to install the beta IPSW

osy avatar Jun 10 '25 23:06 osy

You need this package from Apple Developer website:

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A2beyond avatar Jun 11 '25 13:06 A2beyond

Anyone had any luck signing into iCloud / App Store, installing guest support tools, or accessing a shared folder?

I installed Xcode 26 on 15.5, then installed macOS 26 on UTM (4.6.5 (108)) with no issues during installation. However, post installation, I'm unable to sign into the Apple ID that I use for development (it doesn't send a code to my devices unless specifically retried, then presents an error after the code is entered), shared folders do not appear in the guest OS, and when attempting to install the guest support tools no USB storage device ever shows up in the guest OS, either.

Update: Shared folder showed up after VM shutdown and restart.

tmcintos avatar Jun 11 '25 13:06 tmcintos

Im able to sign into iCloud, access shared drives

im not able to use Apple Intelligence features from within the VM which is unfortunate though. a quick check from Xcode within the host and I can't enumerate the neural engine

Apple Intelligence Pref pane is also not showing up with the intelligence options, just Siri, which makes it seem like the VM engine doesn't pass the neural engine through?

vade avatar Jun 12 '25 20:06 vade

You need this package from Apple Developer website:

I'd be led to believe that the dialog is prompting to install these tools, but failing to do so, is that not the case?

awwright avatar Jun 15 '25 23:06 awwright

You need this package from Apple Developer website:

I'd be led to believe that the dialog is prompting to install these tools, but failing to do so, is that not the case?

It fails because it is a beta tool. It has to be installed manually and then everything works without the need to install Xcode.

A2beyond avatar Jun 16 '25 06:06 A2beyond

I'm not sure what that means... what is the dialog prompting you for, if not to install the tools?

awwright avatar Jun 18 '25 19:06 awwright

it means the install doesnt work - as the install isnt going to find beta tooling, only release tooling. the only tooling to enable this is beta tooling, therefore the automated ability to find the required components fail. Thus you have to manually install them.

vade avatar Jun 18 '25 20:06 vade

You need this package from Apple Developer website:

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This is the solution. Once I installed the package starting the new VM + installation happened without errors. No Beta XCode required nor upgrading from a 15.5 VM.

chrisportela avatar Jun 19 '25 20:06 chrisportela

Getting the below error after having installed the device support package and restarted (twice). No errors / dialog boxes regarding the software update - I get the initial "Would you like to install macOS?" box, then it thinks a bit and spits out the non-specific error. Anyone else get this?

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lgaj6085 avatar Jul 04 '25 08:07 lgaj6085

This is resolved by installing the right package from Apple

osy avatar Jul 08 '25 05:07 osy

I don't think this should be closed, how is a new user supposed to know that you need to install that specific package from Apple? The dialogs appear to be offering the solution, but they fail, and I'm still not sure what it's attempting to do. Is there any situation where the "software update" dialog will succeed?

awwright avatar Jul 08 '25 17:07 awwright

I think of it this way, the use of beta software is in general "uncharted waters" and is something that most users will not participate in. The framework doesn't return any details beyond a generic failure so if we override that message with something specific, it may end up confusing users who hit the generic error for other reasons. A feedback request to Apple to return a better error message and not the generic error when this is hit would be an option.

osy avatar Jul 08 '25 17:07 osy

OK - so for macOS B3 and UTM you need install

Device Support for macOS 26 beta 2

Mobile Device Support 1950A4

It's about 2/3rds down the software install page

It should then work (I assume you also loaded the latest xcode B3 etc).

This works for me so if someone else can confirm then we can close the thread as solved !

TIMBOTGPT avatar Jul 09 '25 06:07 TIMBOTGPT

the use of beta software is in general "uncharted waters" and is something that most users will not participate in.

So you anticipate that this is a problem on Apple's side that will be resolved by the time their software is stable?

awwright avatar Jul 12 '25 02:07 awwright

This is resolved by installing the right package from Apple

I clearly stated that I installed the device support package, which I downloaded from the same page as the IPSW. If I still received the error, it was obviously not resolved.

lgaj6085 avatar Jul 22 '25 09:07 lgaj6085

If you already have macOS 15 VM you can update it to 26 beta, I tried and it worked.

Run this in VM and then update from Settings. No need to do anything else.

sudo defaults write com.apple.MobileAsset MobileAssetAssetAudience -string 832afda4-7283-41da-a95b-75f4a151e473
sudo defaults write com.apple.MobileAsset MobileAssetServerURL-com.apple.MobileAsset.SoftwareUpdate -string "https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-26seed-26-15-14-13-12-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz"
sudo killall -HUP mobileassetd
sudo killall -HUP betaenrollmentd
open "x-apple.systempreferences:com.apple.Software-Update-Settings.extension"

source: https://github.com/insidegui/VirtualBuddy/discussions/194#discussioncomment-13558615

ame1337 avatar Aug 01 '25 00:08 ame1337

for anyone else arriving here: Device Support for macOS 26 beta 2 from https://developer.apple.com/download/os/ is the approach that worked for me to install : macOS 26 Released September 15, 2025 Build 25A354 on top of macOS 15.7 with UTM Version 4.6.5 (108)

ewann avatar Sep 23 '25 05:09 ewann