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Scroll Sensitivity Issue
Describe the issue Hi everyone! So I installed Debian (11), Ubuntu (20) and Windows (11) in my MacBook Air M1. All OSs are running fine, and they are all using the ARM64 architecture.
But there is a common issue I'm facing in all three guests: there must be some problem for the UTM to send over the mouse/trackpad scrolling inputs to the guests OSs. In sum, while in any of these guests, I have to slide my fingers in the built in trackpad for some distance before the page (be it a system page or any app) "jumps" either down or up, left or right. I then tried out using my Magic Mouse, same issue... I also have a regular bluetooth mouse with the traditional wheel on it. When I connected it, I could assert having to scroll about 10-12 wheel "clicks" for the guest system to input what should be one wheel "click".
I have had the same issue once with VMWare Fusion, in there I could fix the issue adding these bellow lines in the .vmx file of each guest OS:
mouse.vusb.enable = "TRUE"
mouse.vusb.useBasicMouse = "FALSE"
mks.mouse.pixelScrollSensitivity = "1"
I tried searching online for some solution on UTM, but haven't had any luck so far, the closest I got was this thread https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/2400, but it didn't quite addresses my issues here.
Configuration
- UTM Version: 2.4.1 (40)
- OS Version: macOs Monterey 12.0.1 (host)
- Intel or Apple Silicon? Apple Silicon
Debug log
I'm not really sure if this log is going to help, basically I just enabled Debug Log in my Debian VM, turned it on, opened Firefox, scrolled down a bit, verified the occurrence of the issue, powered off the VM and exported the log, it follows bellow:
Running: -L /Applications/UTM.app/Contents/Resources/qemu -S -qmp tcp:127.0.0.1:4000,server,nowait -nodefaults -vga none -spice "unix=on,addr=/Users/gabriel/Library/Group Containers/WDNLXAD4W8.com.utmapp.UTM/E69A7C1C-F7ED-4EC2-89C0-D1C735D9509B.spice,disable-ticketing=on,image-compression=off,playback-compression=off,streaming-video=off,gl=on" -device virtio-ramfb-gl -cpu cortex-a72 -smp cpus=4,sockets=1,cores=4,threads=1 -machine virt,highmem=off -accel hvf -accel tcg,thread=multi,tb-size=1024 -drive if=pflash,format=raw,unit=0,file=/Applications/UTM.app/Contents/Resources/qemu/edk2-aarch64-code.fd,readonly=on -drive if=pflash,format=raw,unit=1,file=/Users/gabriel/Library/Containers/com.utmapp.UTM/Data/Documents/Debian.utm/Images/efi_vars.fd -boot menu=on -m 4096 -device intel-hda -device hda-duplex -name Debian -device qemu-xhci,id=usb-bus -device usb-tablet,bus=usb-bus.0 -device usb-mouse,bus=usb-bus.0 -device usb-kbd,bus=usb-bus.0 -device ich9-usb-ehci1,id=usb-controller-0 -device ich9-usb-uhci1,masterbus=usb-controller-0.0,firstport=0,multifunction=on -device ich9-usb-uhci2,masterbus=usb-controller-0.0,firstport=2,multifunction=on -device ich9-usb-uhci3,masterbus=usb-controller-0.0,firstport=4,multifunction=on -chardev spicevmc,name=usbredir,id=usbredirchardev0 -device usb-redir,chardev=usbredirchardev0,id=usbredirdev0,bus=usb-controller-0.0 -chardev spicevmc,name=usbredir,id=usbredirchardev1 -device usb-redir,chardev=usbredirchardev1,id=usbredirdev1,bus=usb-controller-0.0 -chardev spicevmc,name=usbredir,id=usbredirchardev2 -device usb-redir,chardev=usbredirchardev2,id=usbredirdev2,bus=usb-controller-0.0 -device nvme,drive=drive0,serial=drive0,bootindex=0 -drive if=none,media=disk,id=drive0,file=/Users/gabriel/Library/Containers/com.utmapp.UTM/Data/Documents/Debian.utm/Images/disk-0.qcow2,cache=writethrough -device usb-storage,drive=drive1,removable=true,bootindex=1,bus=usb-bus.0 -drive if=none,media=cdrom,id=drive1 -device virtio-net-pci,mac=8A:08:55:F6:6C:B5,netdev=net0 -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0 -device virtio-serial -device virtserialport,chardev=vdagent,name=com.redhat.spice.0 -chardev spicevmc,id=vdagent,debug=0,name=vdagent -device virtserialport,chardev=charchannel1,id=channel1,name=org.spice-space.webdav.0 -chardev spiceport,name=org.spice-space.webdav.0,id=charchannel1 -uuid E69A7C1C-F7ED-4EC2-89C0-D1C735D9509B -rtc base=localtime
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: Started vmnet interface with configuration:
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: MTU: 1500
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: Max packet size: 1514
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: MAC: 4a:34:43:ca:d5:39
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: DHCP IPv4 start: 192.168.64.1
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: DHCP IPv4 end: 192.168.64.254
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: IPv4 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: -netdev vmnet-macos,mode=shared,id=net0: info: UUID: 1AF6D5C3-23C9-497E-8B53-DC7EC3B18240
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: warning: Spice: playback:0 (0x1558d0120): setsockopt failed, Operation not supported on socket
qemu-aarch64-softmmu: warning: Spice: record:0 (0x1558d01d0): setsockopt failed, Operation not supported on socket
gl_version 30 - es profile enabled
WARNING: running without ARB/KHR robustness in place may crash
vrend_renderer_fill_caps: Entering with stale GL error: 1280
GLSL feature level 130
VM Config
I'll be attaching bellow the config.plist of all my guest OSs.Debian 11
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>ConfigurationVersion</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>Debug</key>
<dict>
<key>DebugLog</key>
<false/>
<key>IgnoreAllConfiguration</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>Display</key>
<dict>
<key>ConsoleFont</key>
<string>Menlo</string>
<key>ConsoleFontSize</key>
<integer>12</integer>
<key>ConsoleOnly</key>
<false/>
<key>ConsoleTheme</key>
<string>Default</string>
<key>DisplayCard</key>
<string>virtio-ramfb-gl</string>
<key>DisplayDownscaler</key>
<string>linear</string>
<key>DisplayFitScreen</key>
<true/>
<key>DisplayRetina</key>
<false/>
<key>DisplayUpscaler</key>
<string>linear</string>
</dict>
<key>Drives</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>drive0</string>
<key>ImagePath</key>
<string>disk-0.qcow2</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>disk</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string>nvme</string>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>drive1</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>cd</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string>usb</string>
<key>Removable</key>
<true/>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>408A57DB-5FC0-47A1-B8C4-1B6FFAD9AE34</string>
<key>ImagePath</key>
<string>efi_vars.fd</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>none</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>Info</key>
<dict>
<key>Icon</key>
<string>debian</string>
<key>IconCustom</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>Input</key>
<dict>
<key>InputLegacy</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>Networking</key>
<dict>
<key>NetworkCard</key>
<string>virtio-net-pci</string>
<key>NetworkCardMAC</key>
<string>8A:08:55:F6:6C:B5</string>
<key>NetworkMode</key>
<string>shared</string>
</dict>
<key>Printing</key>
<dict/>
<key>Sharing</key>
<dict>
<key>ClipboardSharing</key>
<true/>
<key>DirectorySharing</key>
<true/>
<key>Usb3Support</key>
<false/>
<key>UsbRedirectMax</key>
<integer>3</integer>
</dict>
<key>Sound</key>
<dict>
<key>SoundCard</key>
<string>intel-hda</string>
<key>SoundEnabled</key>
<true/>
</dict>
<key>System</key>
<dict>
<key>AddArgs</key>
<array>
<string></string>
</array>
<key>Architecture</key>
<string>aarch64</string>
<key>BootDevice</key>
<string></string>
<key>BootUefi</key>
<true/>
<key>CPU</key>
<string>cortex-a72</string>
<key>CPUCount</key>
<integer>4</integer>
<key>ForceMulticore</key>
<true/>
<key>JITCacheSize</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>MachineProperties</key>
<string>highmem=off</string>
<key>Memory</key>
<integer>4096</integer>
<key>SystemUUID</key>
<string>E69A7C1C-F7ED-4EC2-89C0-D1C735D9509B</string>
<key>Target</key>
<string>virt</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
Ubuntu 20
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>ConfigurationVersion</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>Debug</key>
<dict/>
<key>Display</key>
<dict>
<key>ConsoleFont</key>
<string>Menlo</string>
<key>ConsoleFontSize</key>
<integer>12</integer>
<key>ConsoleOnly</key>
<false/>
<key>ConsoleTheme</key>
<string>Default</string>
<key>DisplayCard</key>
<string>virtio-ramfb-gl</string>
<key>DisplayDownscaler</key>
<string>linear</string>
<key>DisplayFitScreen</key>
<true/>
<key>DisplayUpscaler</key>
<string>linear</string>
</dict>
<key>Drives</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>drive0</string>
<key>ImagePath</key>
<string>disk-0.qcow2</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>disk</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string>nvme</string>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>drive1</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>cd</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string>usb</string>
<key>Removable</key>
<true/>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>EEED43A1-440B-4977-BFDE-C15863D644C1</string>
<key>ImagePath</key>
<string>efi_vars.fd</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>none</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>Info</key>
<dict>
<key>Icon</key>
<string>ubuntu</string>
<key>IconCustom</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>Input</key>
<dict>
<key>InputInvertScroll</key>
<false/>
<key>InputLegacy</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>Networking</key>
<dict>
<key>NetworkCard</key>
<string>virtio-net-pci</string>
<key>NetworkCardMAC</key>
<string>6E:8A:11:ED:84:C9</string>
<key>NetworkMode</key>
<string>shared</string>
</dict>
<key>Printing</key>
<dict/>
<key>Sharing</key>
<dict>
<key>ClipboardSharing</key>
<true/>
<key>DirectorySharing</key>
<true/>
<key>Usb3Support</key>
<false/>
<key>UsbRedirectMax</key>
<integer>3</integer>
</dict>
<key>Sound</key>
<dict>
<key>SoundCard</key>
<string>intel-hda</string>
<key>SoundEnabled</key>
<true/>
</dict>
<key>System</key>
<dict>
<key>Architecture</key>
<string>aarch64</string>
<key>BootDevice</key>
<string></string>
<key>BootUefi</key>
<true/>
<key>CPU</key>
<string>cortex-a72</string>
<key>CPUCount</key>
<integer>4</integer>
<key>ForceMulticore</key>
<true/>
<key>JITCacheSize</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>MachineProperties</key>
<string>highmem=off</string>
<key>Memory</key>
<integer>4096</integer>
<key>SystemUUID</key>
<string>9F3B496B-D294-44FC-AADF-5FDC736BB1FC</string>
<key>Target</key>
<string>virt</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
Windows 11
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>ConfigurationVersion</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>Debug</key>
<dict/>
<key>Display</key>
<dict>
<key>ConsoleFont</key>
<string>Menlo</string>
<key>ConsoleFontSize</key>
<integer>12</integer>
<key>ConsoleOnly</key>
<false/>
<key>ConsoleTheme</key>
<string>Default</string>
<key>DisplayCard</key>
<string>virtio-ramfb-gl</string>
<key>DisplayDownscaler</key>
<string>linear</string>
<key>DisplayFitScreen</key>
<true/>
<key>DisplayRetina</key>
<false/>
<key>DisplayUpscaler</key>
<string>linear</string>
</dict>
<key>Drives</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>drive0</string>
<key>ImagePath</key>
<string>disk-0.qcow2</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>disk</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string>nvme</string>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>drive1</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>cd</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string>none</string>
<key>Removable</key>
<true/>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>DriveName</key>
<string>7B3E7C43-91B4-4CCB-97F1-52656B41D524</string>
<key>ImagePath</key>
<string>efi_vars.fd</string>
<key>ImageType</key>
<string>none</string>
<key>InterfaceType</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>Info</key>
<dict>
<key>Icon</key>
<string>windows</string>
<key>IconCustom</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>Input</key>
<dict>
<key>InputInvertScroll</key>
<true/>
<key>InputLegacy</key>
<false/>
</dict>
<key>Networking</key>
<dict>
<key>NetworkCard</key>
<string>virtio-net-pci</string>
<key>NetworkCardMAC</key>
<string>EA:0B:EA:66:FF:A4</string>
<key>NetworkMode</key>
<string>shared</string>
</dict>
<key>Printing</key>
<dict/>
<key>Sharing</key>
<dict>
<key>ClipboardSharing</key>
<true/>
<key>DirectorySharing</key>
<true/>
<key>Usb3Support</key>
<false/>
<key>UsbRedirectMax</key>
<integer>3</integer>
</dict>
<key>Sound</key>
<dict>
<key>SoundCard</key>
<string>intel-hda</string>
<key>SoundEnabled</key>
<true/>
</dict>
<key>System</key>
<dict>
<key>AddArgs</key>
<array>
<string>-device</string>
<string>usb-storage,drive=drive1,removable=true,bootindex=1,bus=usb-bus.0</string>
</array>
<key>Architecture</key>
<string>aarch64</string>
<key>BootDevice</key>
<string></string>
<key>BootUefi</key>
<true/>
<key>CPU</key>
<string>default</string>
<key>CPUCount</key>
<integer>4</integer>
<key>ForceMulticore</key>
<true/>
<key>JITCacheSize</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>MachineProperties</key>
<string>highmem=off,virtualization=on</string>
<key>Memory</key>
<integer>4096</integer>
<key>SystemUUID</key>
<string>751BB571-C919-4740-ADF6-EDB49785B02D</string>
<key>Target</key>
<string>virt</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
I can not reproduce this on my M1 MacBook Pro running UTM 2.4.1 and macOS 12.1.
In a Windows 8.1 VM, scrolling is slightly jumpy when using the Trackpad, but it might just be general system lag from emulation.
In a Ubuntu 21.04 ARM VM with Ubuntu Desktop installed, scrolling works perfectly fine.
On both systems I installed the appropriate guest tools.
Thanks!
I have the guest tools installed in all three guests too.
Considering it is a very isolated issue, I'm guessing there might be an app installed in my machine which could be messing/controlling the mouse/trackpad scrolling inputs, while macOS might not have a problem with it, UTM might be understanding the inputs differently.
I have an intel MacBook Pro 2017, I'll be testing the scrolling behavior there and I'll report back here!
Edit:
So, I picked my Intel MacBook Pro, wiped it out of all installed applications, including chrome, leaving it with only those preinstalled stuff that it came with. Rebooted. Downloaded UTM and the x86 iso files from both Ubuntu and Debian. Installed them and....
To my immense surprise, the issue remains!
Trying to clarify a little, on Ubuntu, for example in the Desktop switching interface (after pressing command/OS button on keyboard), I then slide my fingers either left or right, for the guest OS to switch between workspaces, but it barely works! A quick slide won't do anything. I have to almost slide my fingers all across the trackpad for it to switch. I also used my regular bluetooth mouse, with the scroll wheel, and again I need to do 10 scrolls for the guest OS to recognise one scroll. This is happening in both Debian and Ubuntu OS (I honestly didn't feel like going through all the way to install windows too).
This is mind-blowing to me, I thought it was an isolated issue considering no-one seems to be pointing it out, but it is happening to me in both M1 and Intel chips, on two machines, one without any app installed besides the base packages.
I don't believe it is a hardware problem, specially considering both mouse and trackpad, on both machines, inputs perfectly in the macOS host. Every single scroll "click" with my regular mouse inputs one scroll to the macOS, for example.
Well, I thought, let's try VMWare Fusion then, for comparison. I downloaded and installed it on my intel chip machine, then installed Debian OS on it. Not to my surprise, at this point, the issue was there. Slightly less intense though, for example I have to wheel "click" only about 7 to 8 times before the guest OS recognises one scroll. In VMWare Fusion the solution is the one mentioned above, I just had to add the bellow lines into the guest OS .vmx file:
mouse.vusb.enable = "TRUE"
mouse.vusb.useBasicMouse = "FALSE"
mks.mouse.pixelScrollSensitivity = "1"
In this case scenario, after adding the above lines, I powered on the VM and voilà! Guest OS recognises trackpad's two fingers very smoothly, and for every single mouse wheel scroll I make, the guest OS receives the corresponding one input.
It remains to find a solution for UTM though.
I hope these tests I did might help in someway to find a solution. If you would like, I can try to record a video showing the issues and upload it to a google drive link.
I also have the same problem. Ubuntu 21.10 arm, Debian 11 and Testing arm. This is occurring on MacBook Air M1 on macoS 12.1.
Same problem here. MacOS arm64 as host, Debian arm64 as guest. The mouse wheel is not very responsive and I need to do multiple "clicks" fast to make it work. On the host OS (Mac), I can spin the mouse wheel very slowly (one "click" every 5 seconds, for instance), and it reacts on every single one. However, doing that on the guest OS (Debian), all the "clicks" are just ignored. It seems that it needs a certain quantity of mouse wheel "clicks" per unit of time in order to react and actually perform a scroll action.
Tested with both the MacBook Pro M1 trackpad and a USB mouse.
In a Ubuntu 21.04 ARM VM with Ubuntu Desktop installed, scrolling works perfectly fine.
@conath , really? So if you spin your mouse wheel slowly, one "click" at a time, like I described above, does Ubuntu react on every single "click"?
same thing for me, is there an option to modify qemu params in UTM to experiment whether any of them causes this effect ? I saw I can add them and tried few things around msmouse protocol but without effect. I checked the same on VMware virtualzation and there mouse works correctly (the same M1 box). I tried to run pure qemu to see whether it will be reproducible there but no luck yet (I am starting to discover why we need things like UTM to work with it :D)
Same problem here. MacOS arm64 as host, Debian arm64 as guest. The mouse wheel is not very responsive and I need to do multiple "clicks" fast to make it work. On the host OS (Mac), I can spin the mouse wheel very slowly (one "click" every 5 seconds, for instance), and it reacts on every single one. However, doing that on the guest OS (Debian), all the "clicks" are just ignored. It seems that it needs a certain quantity of mouse wheel "clicks" per unit of time in order to react and actually perform a scroll action.
Tested with both the MacBook Pro M1 trackpad and a USB mouse.
In a Ubuntu 21.04 ARM VM with Ubuntu Desktop installed, scrolling works perfectly fine.
@conath , really? So if you spin your mouse wheel slowly, one "click" at a time, like I described above, does Ubuntu react on every single "click"?
For the record, exactly the same happens when using Apple Virtualization.
For the record I'm having the same issue too. Brand new M2 MacBook Pro. Latest UTM running latest Debian 12 RISC version with XFCE. UTM Guest tools installed. You have to scroll the mouse scroll wheel 'rapidly' before it registers and scrolls the page in any Debian app. Other than that the virtual machine is blazing fast. Mouse scroll wheel works great in native OSX.
For the record I'm having the same issue too. Brand new M2 MacBook Pro. Latest UTM running latest Debian 12 RISC version with XFCE. UTM Guest tools installed. You have to scroll the mouse scroll wheel 'rapidly' before it registers and scrolls the page in any Debian app. Other than that the virtual machine is blazing fast. Mouse scroll wheel works great in native OSX.
@JeffSweeting Check this comment https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/5124#issuecomment-1501901886 And the one above it on the same issue. You may find it interesting. Since I started using qemu directly I don't have that mouse scroll issue.
Check this comment https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/5693 This issue is caused by spice driver and occurs when using a Bluetooth mouse. The scroll wheel works fine when using a wired device.
Check this comment https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/5693 This issue is caused by spice driver and occurs when using a Bluetooth mouse. The scroll wheel works fine when using a wired device.
I don't think that's correct. I was using a wired mouse when I experienced that issue. I do not own any bluetooth mouse.
