The link in the app to download trackir no longer exists. The current location for these files is:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/naturalpoint/trackir/software/TrackIR_5.4.2.exe

Jan 14 '17 11:01 davidjbradshaw

Thank you for spotting that! Will fix the links in the next release. Kind regards, Michal

Jan 17 '17 20:01 uglyDwarf

Michal,

first let me say YOU ARE DA MAN!

I was able to get the tracker to work (just the test for now) today, using the delanclip (would be nice if we had this as a pre-set to select) and a ps3-eye cam on Linux Mint 18.1.

I have two questions:

I plan to use the tracker with Falcon BMS 4.33 running in WINE, but installing wine support fails because it seems the TIR firmware is no longer included with the various setup.exe files available over at NP. Any idea where I can get the firmware files? Will I need to use WINE mode in order to get the clip working within Falcon BMS?
Where can I send the money? I think I saw a donate link somewhere... ;-)

Again, fantastic work mate.

All the best, Uwe

Feb 26 '17 12:02 hoover67

Hello Uwe, as for the delanclip, it is the first time I've heard about it... Will take a look at that and add it to the models... I was trying Falcon AF under wine and it did work; will check to see what might be missing (last time I tried the firmware extraction worked well)... If you click the Wiki pane above, it will get you to the home page and there is the link (didn't managed to put the picture there yet)... Kind regards, Michal

Feb 27 '17 06:02 uglyDwarf

Hello Michal,

thanks for the reply. I meanwhile managed to extract the firmware files using the linuxtrack-wine.exe you so kindly provided in one of the issue comments (the exe was missing from the archive I downloaded 93.19 I believe).

I also got tracking to work in Falcon BMS under wine, but it is extremely jittery even with all the smoothing sliders maxed out. I'm using a ps3 eyecam which linuxtrack picks up nicely (320x240 @ 187hz selected by default), and the video view and 3d view in the glider look smooth as silk, but within BMS it's pretty much unusable right now.

Looking at the detailed axis setup stuff, I've noted the red and blue crosses being quite "jiggly" as well, but that doesn't seem to affect the glider 3d view too much.

As a comparison I disabled the Acelera Mk2 filter in win7 in facetracknoir and I got a similar effect in BMS under windows, the tracking being extremely sensitive and jumpy (just a couple of pixels but really nauseating ;-))

Is there some kind of mailing list / forum where I could ask some questions? I really don't want to bother you with the fiddly bits so I was hoping there is a community out there which maybe I've been so far unable to track down ;-)

All the best & keep up the good work,

Uwe

PS: For the record, I think there's quite a large percentage of BMS users out there considering switching to wine / Linux, so I would really lilke to help them making the transition.

On 27 February 2017 at 07:08, uglyDwarf [email protected] wrote:

Hello Uwe, as for the delanclip, it is the first time I've heard about it... Will take a look at that and add it to the models... I was trying Falcon AF under wine and it did work; will check to see what might be missing (last time I tried the firmware extraction worked well)... If you click the Wiki pane above, it will get you to the home page and there is the link (didn't managed to put the picture there yet)... Kind regards, Michal

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Feb 27 '17 08:02 hoover67

Hello Uwe, can you try lowering the camera frame rate? Try switching to 320x640 @ 60hz and see if the jittering gets better... I'll try to test it in the evening and see if I can reproduce the problem... Kind regards, Michal

Feb 27 '17 10:02 uglyDwarf

Thanks Michal,

I already tried this yesterday and it did not appear to help. I also played with the pixel format to no avail.

Are you running BMS under WINE, too? If so, which version of wine are you running? I selected the standard v1.6 that comes with Linux Mint, but I could also give 2.1 a try as it's available from a repo, too.

If you need any further info please let me know. When I launch BMS, I see a dialog box about "Fake TrackIR already running".

I hope things work ok on your end because then there's hope something is b0rked on my end :-)

All the best, Uwe

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Hello Uwe, can you try lowering the camera frame rate? Try switching to 320x640 @ 60hz and see if the jittering gets better... I'll try to test it in the evening and see if I can reproduce the problem... Kind regards, Michal

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Feb 27 '17 10:02 hoover67

Hello Uwe, I used to test it with the Falcon 4 Allied Force and it worked reasonably well (Wine 1.6 I think)... Just to be sure, when you open the 3D preview, it is not that jittery? One more thing that may help me reproducing the problem - could you package the logs (fourth pane, there is a button for that) and attach them here? Then I'll see exactly how did you set it up... Kind regards, Michal

Feb 27 '17 12:02 uglyDwarf

Hello Michal,

will do so when I get home tonight. The 3d glider test view is silky smooth, no jitters at all as far as I can tell.

If you need a "test license" for BMS let me know and I'll buy one for you over at gog or steam (consider it another donation then, BMS really is leaps and bounds beyond Falcon AF). BMS requires a falcon 4.0 installation since version 4.33.

All the best, Uwe

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Hello Uwe, I used to test it with the Falcon 4 Allied Force and it worked reasonably well (Wine 1.6 I think)... Just to be sure, when you open the 3D preview, it is not that jittery? One more thing that may help me reproducing the problem - could you package the logs (fourth pane, there is a button for that) and attach them here? Then I'll see exactly how did you set it up... Kind regards, Michal

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Feb 27 '17 12:02 hoover67

Hello Uwe, I have Falcon 4 from GOG, will look for the BMS then... Kind regards, Michal

Feb 27 '17 12:02 uglyDwarf

Hello Michal,

I've now gotten 640x480 @ 60hz to work, but it's still quite jumpy and hardly usable for a smooth experience.

Please find the logfile below. You may note that I had to crank up the blob size to 300-400 pixels in order for the camera to pick up the LEDs, but maybe I am misunderstanding something about the meaning of those values.

Also, the threshold has to be maxed out (ir filter removed from the ps3/eye) so the tracker picks up the LEDs. From what I can tell from the camera view / 3d view, everything should be quite smooth, weird that it isn't in BMS.

I also noted BMS fails to pick up the z axis movement (which I've mapped to POV control while enabling trackir vector and 3d track ir in Setup -> Advanced -> View control which is just how it works natively in windows with FaceTrackNoIR.

Please find attached a screenshot of the tracking window as it looks on my system, and please let me know if you need any other information.

All the best & thanks again very much for your help!

Uwe

Linuxtrack version 0.99.18

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Starting ltr_gui

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Preferences read OK!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Dumping prefs:

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] [Global]

Model = DelanClip

Prefix = "/opt/linuxtrack-0.99.18/bin"

Input = Webcam

Camera-orientation = 0

[Wiimote]

Capture-device = Wiimote

Capture-device-id = Wiimote

Running-indication = 0100

Paused-indication = 0010

[TrackIR]

Capture-device = Tir

Capture-device-id = Tir

Threshold = 140

Min-blob = 4

Max-blob = 2500

Status-led-brightness = 0

Ir-led-brightness = 7

Status-signals = On

[NP TrackClip]

Model-type = Cap

Cap-X = 67

Cap-Y = 54

Cap-Z = 96

Head-Y = 160

Head-Z = 50

Active = no

[NP TrackClip Pro]

Model-type = Clip

Clip-Y1 = 40

Clip-Y2 = 110

Clip-Z1 = 30

Clip-Z2 = 50

Head-X = -100

Head-Y = -100

Head-Z = 50

Active = yes

[Face]

Model-type = Face

[Single Point Reflective]

Model-type = SinglePoint

Active = no

[Single LED]

Model-type = SinglePoint

Active = yes

[Default]

Title = Default

Pitch-enabled = Yes

Pitch-deadzone = 0.0

Pitch-left-curvature = 0.5

Pitch-right-curvature = 0.5

Pitch-sensitivity = 4.83333

Pitch-left-limit = 80.000000

Pitch-right-limit = 80.000000

Pitch-filter = 1

Pitch-inverted = No

Yaw-enabled = Yes

Yaw-deadzone = 0.0891089

Yaw-left-curvature = 0.85

Yaw-right-curvature = 0.85

Yaw-sensitivity = 4.83333

Yaw-left-limit = 170

Yaw-right-limit = 170

Yaw-filter = 2

Yaw-inverted = No

Roll-enabled = Yes

Roll-deadzone = 0.0

Roll-left-curvature = 0.5

Roll-right-curvature = 0.5

Roll-sensitivity = 1.500000

Roll-left-limit = 45.000000

Roll-right-limit = 45.000000

Roll-filter = 1

Roll-inverted = No

Xtranslation-enabled = Yes

Xtranslation-deadzone = 0.0

Xtranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Xtranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Xtranslation-sensitivity = 3.16667

Xtranslation-left-limit = 300.000000

Xtranslation-right-limit = 300.000000

Xtranslation-filter = 1

Xtranslation-inverted = No

Ytranslation-enabled = Yes

Ytranslation-deadzone = 0.0

Ytranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Ytranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Ytranslation-sensitivity = 3.25

Ytranslation-left-limit = 300.000000

Ytranslation-right-limit = 300.000000

Ytranslation-filter = 2

Ytranslation-inverted = No

Ztranslation-enabled = Yes

Ztranslation-deadzone = 0

Ztranslation-left-curvature = 0.82

Ztranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Ztranslation-sensitivity = 4.08333

Ztranslation-left-limit = 900

Ztranslation-right-limit = 9

Ztranslation-filter = 1.23

Ztranslation-inverted = Yes

[Webcam]

Capture-device = Webcam

Capture-device-id = USB Camera-B4.09.24.1

Pixel-format = YUYV

Resolution = 640 x 480

Fps = 60/1

Threshold = 253

Min-blob = 300

Max-blob = 400

[Webcam-face]

Capture-device = Webcam-face

Capture-device-id = USB Camera-B4.09.24.1

Pixel-format = YUYV

Resolution = 320 x 240

Fps = 187/1

Cascade = /opt/linuxtrack-0.99.18/share/linuxtrack/haarcascade_frontalface_alt2.xml

Exp-filter-factor = 0.105263

[DelanClip]

Model-type = Clip

Clip-Y1 = 40

Clip-Y2 = 110

Clip-Z1 = 30

Clip-Z2 = 50

Head-X = -1

Head-Y = 1

Head-Z = 1

Active = yes

[Profile]

Title = Microsoft Flight

Pitch-deadzone = 0

Pitch-inverted = No

Pitch-left-curvature = 0.5

Pitch-right-curvature = 0.5

Pitch-sensitivity = 5

Pitch-left-limit = 80

Pitch-right-limit = 80

Pitch-filter = 0.2

Pitch-enabled = Yes

Yaw-deadzone = 0

Yaw-inverted = No

Yaw-left-curvature = 0.5

Yaw-right-curvature = 0.5

Yaw-sensitivity = 5

Yaw-left-limit = 130

Yaw-right-limit = 130

Yaw-filter = 0.2

Yaw-enabled = Yes

Roll-deadzone = 0

Roll-inverted = No

Roll-left-curvature = 0.5

Roll-right-curvature = 0.5

Roll-sensitivity = 1.5

Roll-left-limit = 45

Roll-right-limit = 45

Roll-filter = 0.2

Roll-enabled = Yes

Xtranslation-deadzone = 0

Xtranslation-inverted = No

Xtranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Xtranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Xtranslation-sensitivity = 5

Xtranslation-left-limit = 300

Xtranslation-right-limit = 300

Xtranslation-filter = 0.2

Xtranslation-enabled = Yes

Ytranslation-deadzone = 0

Ytranslation-inverted = No

Ytranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Ytranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Ytranslation-sensitivity = 5

Ytranslation-left-limit = 300

Ytranslation-right-limit = 300

Ytranslation-filter = 0.2

Ytranslation-enabled = Yes

Ztranslation-deadzone = 0

Ztranslation-inverted = No

Ztranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Ztranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Ztranslation-sensitivity = 2

Ztranslation-left-limit = 300

Ztranslation-right-limit = 1

Ztranslation-filter = 0.5

Ztranslation-enabled = Yes

[Profile0000]

Title = Falcon 4.0

Pitch-deadzone = 0

Pitch-inverted = No

Pitch-left-curvature = 0.5

Pitch-right-curvature = 0.5

Pitch-sensitivity = 5

Pitch-left-limit = 80

Pitch-right-limit = 80

Pitch-filter = 0.2

Pitch-enabled = Yes

Yaw-deadzone = 0

Yaw-inverted = No

Yaw-left-curvature = 0.5

Yaw-right-curvature = 0.5

Yaw-sensitivity = 5

Yaw-left-limit = 130

Yaw-right-limit = 130

Yaw-filter = 0.2

Yaw-enabled = Yes

Roll-deadzone = 0

Roll-inverted = No

Roll-left-curvature = 0.5

Roll-right-curvature = 0.5

Roll-sensitivity = 1.5

Roll-left-limit = 45

Roll-right-limit = 45

Roll-filter = 0.2

Roll-enabled = Yes

Xtranslation-deadzone = 0

Xtranslation-inverted = No

Xtranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Xtranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Xtranslation-sensitivity = 5

Xtranslation-left-limit = 300

Xtranslation-right-limit = 300

Xtranslation-filter = 0.2

Xtranslation-enabled = Yes

Ytranslation-deadzone = 0

Ytranslation-inverted = No

Ytranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Ytranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Ytranslation-sensitivity = 5

Ytranslation-left-limit = 300

Ytranslation-right-limit = 300

Ytranslation-filter = 0.2

Ytranslation-enabled = Yes

Ztranslation-deadzone = 0

Ztranslation-inverted = No

Ztranslation-left-curvature = 0.5

Ztranslation-right-curvature = 0.5

Ztranslation-sensitivity = 2

Ztranslation-left-limit = 300

Ztranslation-right-limit = 1

Ztranslation-filter = 0.5

Ztranslation-enabled = Yes

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET]

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Opening logfile viewer.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Launching wine command: '"wine" "--version"'

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Going to create lock '/home/hoover/.config/linuxtrack/ltr_server.lock' => 22!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Lock 22 success!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Passing the lock to protect fifo (pid 6149)!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Initializing axes for profile 'Default'!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Closing axes!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Initializing axes for profile 'Default'!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Closing axes!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Initializing axes for profile 'Default'!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Closing axes!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Initializing axes for profile 'Default'!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Launching wine command: '"wine" "--version"'

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Initializing libusb.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Libusb initialized successfuly.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Libusb debug level set.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Requesting device list.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Device list received (16 devices).

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Can't find any TrackIR!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Freeing device list.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Device list freed.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Bad handle!

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Closing TrackIR.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Closing TrackIR handle.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Exiting libusb.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Libusb exited.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] Found V4L2 webcam: 'USB Camera-B4.09.24.1'

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:40 CET] open: Permission denied

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] open: Permission denied

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found joystick named 'Thrustmaster Thrustmaster FFB Wheel'.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found joystick named 'Thrustmaster Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar'.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found joystick named 'Thrustmaster F16 MFD 1'.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found joystick named 'Thrustmaster F16 MFD 2'.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found joystick named 'Thrustmaster Thrustmaster FFB Wheel'.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found joystick named 'Leo Bodnar Logitech G25 Shifter'.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found joystick named 'Thrustmaster Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar'.

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] JS: Thrustmaster F16 MFD 1

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] JS: Thrustmaster F16 MFD 2

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] JS: Thrustmaster Thrustmaster FFB Wheel

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] JS: Leo Bodnar Logitech G25 Shifter

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] JS: Thrustmaster Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] EVDEV: Thrustmaster Thrustmaster FFB Wheel

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] EVDEV: Thrustmaster Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found V4L2 webcam: 'USB Camera-B4.09.24.1'

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Found webcam 'video0' (/dev/video0)

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported format: YUYV 4:2:2

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Frame size 320 x 240

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 187.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 150.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 137.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 125.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 100.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 75.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 60.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 50.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 37.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 30.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Frame size 640 x 480

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 60.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 50.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 40.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 30.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported framerate: 15.000000

[Mon 2017-02-27 17:42:41 CET] Supported format: RGB3