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User Feedback /Testing Request for v14.0.0 TB 115
All: I am flagging those who have posted and or requested features or are part of the PTNG / IETNG crew. If you are not interested, no problem just unsubscribe to this thread.
@tidebre67 @kiki-ja @JF1313 @Thefaroah @RRoenn @ovari @DenB10 @robsonware @Robintes @MrLoverLoverMMMM Anyone else...!
I have already posted a release status issue where you can get the latest beta and status:
- #408 NOTE: This requires TB beta for 115. It will probably not be able to be run on earlier versions.
For starters testing everything is fair game. I am particularly interested in feedback on the new menu structure. As soon as that settles I will localize and we can refine. Note maildir functions not wired yet. Also note menu differences :
- Removed file menu - redundant
- Removed folder/message items from tools menu
- Added button for tools ops
- Tools menu on main menu toolbar, should also be on hamburger menu by release
If time allows I will try to add PDF export with index and attachments
Thanks to all in advance. @cleidigh
@cleidigh menu looks fine and works, As i use backup function only can confirm works without problems.
Visibility has to be inproved a bit:
All b2 is up, menus and localized, help started.
@kiki-ja - Menus set if you wish to improve. @tidebre67 maybe you can check The menus also. I think they are better than before. I have not touched the ui so have to deal with layout still. @cleidigh
@tidebre67 Thanks, so German menu translations look good? One thing in German that confuses me is some things get a hyphen -, but it seems inconsistent. Just did a bunch of help work, so much to do... Christopher
@cleidigh menu translation looks okay form me. Hyphens are alright. (yes, hyphens in german confuses me sometimes too) Help page: a lot of information on this page, cannot comment as i use the backup function only, but for other users surely helpful.
@tidebre67 Thanks on dark mode. As usual I did more on the ui , especially on options to use format from @kiki-ja. @tidebre67 @kiki-ja b5 is feature complete with all translations in place except for improvement I need testing and cleanup which I will start now
If anyone out there wants to help testing, now is a good time!
@cleidigh
@cleidigh
b5 is feature complete with all translations in place except for improvement
I will start translating and correcting the ja locale files. Translating and correcting the help files will take some time. I will ask you questions if you have any questions about the translation.
About mboximportOptions.xhtml:
line 330:
Thanks.
@kiki-ja
@cleidigh guess you know that th orange buttons on the options do not work.
@kiki-ja Thanks, that's part of cleanup I am doing now... @tidebre67 No that was not known. Crazy things I spent half the day tracking down. It worked in debug mode, but for some reason failed in the xpi??? I still don't know why, had to do a workaround. Thanks. Any random testing helpful! @cleidigh
@cleidigh
IETNG 1.4.0.0b6 Thunderbird 115.0b4 Windows 10 Pro 22H2
The Charset selection pull-down display frame is a little narrow. I would appreciate it if you could make it a little wider.
@kiki-ja
Will do in next beta.
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IETNG 1.4.0.0b6 Thunderbird 115.0b4 Windows 10 Pro 22H2
The Charset selection pull-down display frame is a little narrow. I would appreciate it if you could make it a little wider.
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@kiki-ja @tidebre67 b6 should be complete with several translations and tweaks to profile wizard. I have tested everything. I need to do at least testing on Linux and verify all locales. I also have to wait for an important mbox patch as any mbox exports are bad. @cleidigh
Yesterday I've installed the fresh Thunderbird 115 under Linux and ImportExportTools NG 14.0.0-b6. I can configure it with the options dialogue and I can see a "Export Messages As..." in the context menu of a mail. Additionally, I can find this as a sub menu under different other sub menus in the mail's context menu.
Problem: whenever I tried to open that "Export Messages As..." sub menu, it disappears. Looks like a "hide" command to the sub menu in its opening-event ;)
But it does not only disappears when trying to open the "Export Messages As...", it also disappears when opening any other sub menu in the mail's context menu.
When right-clicking on a mail:
After selecting any sub menu, for example the "Tag"-menu, where "Export Messages As..." is also shown:
And in some of my IMAP folders the "Export Messages As..." menu is shown three times:
@botchedcode First, much appreciate the post. I need as much feedback as possible given the magnitude of this release. 👍
So are you a prior IETNG user? If so you will notice the menus have been completely redesigned, but are also part of the new web apis, so we are all working with new stuff. The b6 beta has been extensively tested on Windows and about 25% on Linux. I use my Mint 23 VM. What Linux do you use?
I have not seen anything like this on Windows and one of the first tests on Linux I have done is the export messages. That all has been good, however, I have to update from the last beta.
Let me do that and see what I get. The menus should be stable and I don't do anything atypical so I am very surprised by things like the tags menu. Cheers @cleidigh
@botchedcode Ok so on my Mint 20.3 VM with v115.0 I am not seeing any menu issues so now we have to look at any differences. We need to start with your distro. Also have you tried any other extensions with message context menus? @cleidigh
It's all very strange...
The story in short: yesterday I had that problem (you see it in the screenshots) the hole day on my machine. This morning I tried to reproduce it on all of my private and business machines, but without success, everywhere it works as expected. Then I tried to reproduce it in the exaktly same situation as yesterday, but today it also works correctly so... hmmm.....
I hope I haven't caused too much panic ;)
The long story, to answer the questions: I am using several Desktop-PCs, notebooks and a virtual machine (KVM), all with Debian (Bullseye), Kubuntu 22.04 or Tuxedo OS (which is based on newest KDE neon = Kubuntu). All are using KDE desktop and with almost identical configurations and applications.
ImportExportToolsNG 14b6 is in use here with a completely fresh installation of Thunderbird 115 with a new and empty profile. ImportExportToolsNG is the only add-on installed in Thunderbird.
The behaviour yesterday was very weird. And now it does not longer happen, without any change on that Thunderbird installation or on the machine.... that is completely illogical.
I've been using Thunderbird for what feels like centuries. And because it unfortunately still lacks the essential function of saving mails with meaningful names, ImportExportToolsNG is an absolutely indispensable necessity.
As tested now, ImportExportToolsNG 14b6 works perfectly for me, only I'm not happy with the new Thunderbird. Functionally everything is perfect, it works flawlessly, but visually it is a total loss, because the colours of the system are unfortunately not respected at all and so it just looks horrible... but this is another story for another place.
Greetings and thanks for all your work, Christian
Just one little detail in the options dialogue. I want to use a custom date format and a custom file naming.
I select "Use Extended Format" and configure my custom file name with "${date_custom}". Ok so far. But then I can't edit the "Custom date" field, it is disabled:
So I had to activate "Use following format", edit the "Custom date" field and switch back to "Use Extended Format". This is.... funny ;)
@botchedcode Well that is surprising, and weird. I am glad the problems went away, but that always makes me suspicious... I have to agree about the new interface, too many areas, not clean. Yes on the custom date, I have to make it separate, just have to find the space, will try @cleidigh
Probably just a beta/development restriction, but just in case it's a bug:
Using the release build of Thunderbird 115 and the 14.0.0-b6 beta of the addon I can only export 100 messages at a time, no matter how many are selected in Thunderbird's message pane. That never was a problem before, I used to use the addon to backup several thousands of mails that way on a regular basis.
The issue only occurs when selecting messages in the message pane, exporting entire folders works as expected.
@rimisuko Thank you for reporting! This is definitely some bug, I have been testing with less than 100 messages up to this point, there shouldn't be an issue so I will see what is going on.
Important note: One important Thunderbird bug is delaying my release. Any mbox exports will result in bad mbox files. Don't do mbox exports!!! Unfortunately I don't have a date for the fix yet. Thanks @cleidigh
Update : @rimisuko I just confirmed your observation. I have done huge imports and exports in testing, but missed >100 on selected messages, my omission... So what I discovered is that the new Thunderbird menu api will not report a selection over 100. Basically someone decided no one would select more than 100. I will report and hopefully get the team to update the api.
I will report back here. @cleidigh
@rimisuko I think I have found a workaround for the 100 message issue. I should have a beta shortly. @cleidigh
Hi @cleidigh, First: many thanks for you efforts! Earlier versions of IETNG could "export" attachments of a mail into the mail's (imap) folder. I could not find this function importEmlToFolder in the beta. Is this one of the functions you mentioned in the first post as "not wired yet"?
@akki42 Thanks for your support! I have to be honest that I kind of ignored that functionality thinking it was sort of obsolete and not used. This was my error. I am not even sure if it is working in 102. I will see if it is possible to get working in the release if not in a point release. I just have so much going on.
Here is a brief status :
- b6 is feature complete minus this function
- I have done quite thorough testing
- There are about 100+ beta users, mostly anonymous on b6
- b7 will have two important fixes
- fix 100 message export limit
- workaround for TB mbox bug that makes bad mbox exports
- should be this week
I will look into the function
Cheers @cleidigh
Thank you, @cleidigh!
(BTW: function is working fine in TB102.12 with IETNG v. 12.04.)
@akki42 I was just investigating and didn't find the menu item. Where is the context menu in 102? I did a right click on an attachment .
It looks like this functionality will have to be implemented quite differently for 115 so I may have to wait for a point release, however, I will see if I am wrong. @cleidigh
@cleidigh,
It will only show up on message (eml) attachments, see screenshot:
@akki42 Ahh, ok I was doing with non eml attachments. Now I can at least compare for 115. Thank you! @cleidigh
@akki42 You will be happy to know importEmlToFolder is working in v14! I actually re-implemented the function in the web extension side and looks good so far. I will have it in b7 shortly. Do you get notifications on the release status where I always have the pointer to the latest beta?
- #408 If not I can let you know when I post it. And let me know how it works. Cheers @cleidigh
@akki42 You will be happy to know importEmlToFolder is working in v14! I actually re-implemented the function in the web extension side and looks good so far. I will have it in b7 shortly. Do you get notifications on the release status where I always have the pointer to the latest beta?
- #408 If not I can let you know when I post it. And let me know how it works. Cheers @cleidigh
Thank you! Have subscribed to #408 and will have a look at b7 once available.