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Combine efforts?

Open benmvp opened this issue 7 years ago • 14 comments

Hi Ekaterina,

First of all, awesome work with this repo! It's something that's sorely needed in the community!

I actually built something similar a couple of months ago: https://github.com/benmvp/frontend-confs. I really like your tabular format which presents more information at a time! I wish I had thought of it 😉

Anyway, I have a number of conferences that are missing on yours, which I can totally add in PR, but was curious if you'd be willing to add the two pieces of info your table is missing: whether or not travel/accommodations are covered and if there's a code of conduct. I find knowing whether expenses are covered upfront a huge time-saver.

Let me know what you think! Great job again...

benmvp avatar Dec 30 '16 16:12 benmvp

Also, here is similar project - https://github.com/frontendfront/front-end-conferences It's a source for http://frontendfront.com/conferences. 👍

PavloKovalov avatar Jan 02 '17 15:01 PavloKovalov

Hi @benmvp! Thanks for reaching out! Sorry for not replying earlier – was on vacation. The initial idea behind the list was to help people interested primarily in JS to find conferences to attend. I later added CFPs, but still the main focus is on attending and not speaking. With that in mind I'm ok with adding conferences that don't have any CFP. Is that what you also do in your list?

I'd also like to keep away from more general conferences or conferences focused on some other technologies with only a minor track on JavaScript (while it may seem reasonable to speak there, it may not be worth suggesting to attend it, if you're focusing on JavaScript.

Based on your experience are there a lot of events without Code of conduct?

prigara avatar Jan 10 '17 13:01 prigara

If I might also chip in. Both of you have great lists!

I have been building the https://codeandtalk.com/ site in the past couple of months (both code and data are here: https://github.com/szabgab/codeandtalk.com ) I hope to provide a place where people can find conferences to attend, places to speak at and if they missed some of the talks find those and watch them.

I've been categorizing them and thus there is the page for JavaScript events: https://codeandtalk.com/t/javascript and one for Front-End events: https://codeandtalk.com/t/frontend

It would be great if we could cooperate in our effort and build something out that will provide the appropriate listings.

I've just started to create calendars of these listings. There is one with all the events linked on this page: https://codeandtalk.com/conferences I hope to add other calendars as well that will hopefully help other people to track events. Using that will also answer the other issue: #32

szabgab avatar Jan 13 '17 11:01 szabgab

Hey all!

@prigara and I have created the [https://github.com/tech-conferences] org to combine our effort. I had previously built confs.tech that I also moved under this repo.

We now have all the JS conferences here as JSON files that are fed to confs.tech. It's too sad to have all those lists everywhere. We do keep track of the cfpUrl and cfpDate even though it is not used on the website, but we might come up with a simple solution in the future for that. We really want to keep it simple.

To come back to your initial post @benmvp. Like @prigara I agree that now most of the conferences have Code of Conduct (we see it at a glance when we look at your repo). And now that it is a JSON file, it would be harmless to add a field like cfpCostCovered: true or something like that. That being said, I'm not sure it adds that much of a value since, again, it's true most of the time.

nimzco avatar Sep 14 '17 23:09 nimzco

There is also https://conferenceradar.com/ made by @ryanlanciaux. As a user of all of these a combine effort sounds awesome!

On an side: @nimzco the link to confs.tech is not working for me.

kwelch avatar Sep 15 '17 18:09 kwelch

Hey @kwelch, https://confs.tech seems to work on my end. Is it still down for you?

nimzco avatar Sep 15 '17 18:09 nimzco

Yes, but I am on the office wifi. Will check later.

kwelch avatar Sep 15 '17 18:09 kwelch

Hi everyone! It's great to share an interest in helping the community discover and contribute great events!

I would love to hear what you're all thinking but wondering if "sharing" some of the events between projects may be a good thing. I would be happy to write a transform from the JSON format we're using on conferenceradar.com to another format. The one issue that there may be with this is we're currently tracking lots of tech event types and are still working to get the data more uniform regarding what the classifications are. At this point, it'd be a little difficult to say with certainty that we'd only be exporting a JavaScript event, or Ruby, what ever. We're most likely going to be using tags moving forward but aren't 100% set there.

I really do like the idea of any listing containing, Code of Conduct info, CFP info, and whether or not travel is covered, maybe another property for additional attributes as well?

👍

Also, your site is working fine for me so I'd be inclined to blame @kwelch's WiFi :D

ryanlanciaux avatar Sep 15 '17 20:09 ryanlanciaux

Let us know how the tagging goes. I really want to make sure we have a quality list correctly sorted. I would really rather prioritised quality over quantity.

And the end goal is the repo / website has enough visibility that conference organizers come to the repo to add their conferences themselves.

nimzco avatar Sep 16 '17 22:09 nimzco

@nimzco @ryanlanciaux @kwelch have you looked at https://codeandtalk.com/ and our git repo at https://github.com/szabgab/codeandtalk.com ? What do you think merging the data with us as well?

szabgab avatar Sep 17 '17 17:09 szabgab

Personally, I have no problem merging the data (or at least have a single source of truth) as long as the we can differentiate each tech. If you're able to separate clearly from your list JS from CSS from Ruby etc. we could go from there.

It is important to remember that from a user perspective, you are not looking for the biggest list of conferences, you are rather looking for conferences that are in your interest. This is why we've decided to have clear separate lists.

nimzco avatar Sep 17 '17 22:09 nimzco

We have tags for each event. (see the data/events/*.json files) and see the site how you can select the topics. Or UX is far from being good as most of are more back-end type of people, but you can find the data.

szabgab avatar Sep 18 '17 03:09 szabgab

+1 to what @nimzco has already said. Our goal is to keep events strictly assigned to specific categories. And in the nearest future, we would probably want to keep the number of event types rather limited to make sure the event lists are of the highest quality.

prigara avatar Sep 18 '17 10:09 prigara

@szabgab Would we be okay to ingest this data into conferenceradar? I understand it’s all open-source but still want to verify before wholesale importing :D We totally welcome people using the data from conference radar as well because our mindset is this list we are moderating is all for and from the community BUT want to be doing right by everyone else’s hard work 👍

We are working toward making it so all upcoming events in conferenceradar have topics and will very soon be moving over to “main_topic” which will be one of a distinct list of items and a series of tags. For instance, a conference could be .NET as a main topic but could have tags of web, javascript, architecture, and so on. Having the tags as well as topics will help define additional filters for people to search through. Additionally, we plan on showing different map markers depending on main topic to help visually distinguish conferences by type -- this would be a little more difficult with using only tags.

Finally, we are looking at moving over to a json object per item (kind of like you are setup — but we were initially getting inspiration from up-for-grabs (using JSON instead of yaml). When we build the site, it’ll make a list for upcoming events and archive lists by year.

Look forward to discussing this all further with you all 👍

ryanlanciaux avatar Sep 18 '17 17:09 ryanlanciaux