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Tree supports

Open PatrikTheDev opened this issue 6 years ago • 25 comments

Just tree supports as cura or meshmixer has, they are already there for the SL1, so why not for FDM

PatrikTheDev avatar Jan 18 '19 08:01 PatrikTheDev

this would be amazing to have - but idk if it will ever come? Adding tree supports seems like a very hard thing to do

Photogad avatar Jan 30 '19 03:01 Photogad

prusa is working on that (for the sl1 support). So it should come in some weeks or months.

supermerill avatar Jan 30 '19 09:01 supermerill

prusa is working on that (for the sl1 support). So it should come in some weeks or months.

for just SL1 or for FDM too?

Photogad avatar Feb 02 '19 05:02 Photogad

Yes, because the functionality is already there for the SL1, just not for the FDM

PatrikTheDev avatar Feb 02 '19 08:02 PatrikTheDev

I'd definitely like to see this.

BrandtVanDenBerg avatar Apr 15 '19 16:04 BrandtVanDenBerg

ohhh I want this :D

vertigo235 avatar Dec 31 '19 15:12 vertigo235

I just read this and now I covet them too.

zbrozek avatar Jul 24 '20 02:07 zbrozek

For what i understand, you can see that the cura tree have thick branches and the current prusa sla one are thin, so it needs significant rewrite to make them suitable to fff.

supermerill avatar Jul 24 '20 16:07 supermerill

I hate Cura for its UI and overall its bulky. Right now I'm having zits on my prints, that do not present on any other slicer. But I love tree supports, that only Cura offers. Much less print time, easier to remove. Sad, that it's hard to implement.

Skaifer avatar Oct 08 '20 09:10 Skaifer

No need for significant rewrites, it's fine as it is! When I was young I'd use to print 3D scans of people on commission and used Meshmixer SLA supports extensively for my FDM prints. I'd just dimension them to 3mm diameter and a 1mm tip. No auto-generation either: the trick is to identify the spot where extrusion in the air happens first and add a support to that.

Currently I do the same with SuperSlicer: I have a SL1 profile, import my STL and manually add supports to that. Then export the STL including supports, open in FDM profile and scale up to achieve ~3mm diameter supports. Similar to this

edit: changes I'd like to see though:

  • ability to change support diameter and tip diameter
  • show overhang area's while adding manual support
  • add support from point to point, so I can add support from one point of the print to another without having to originate from the base plate (potentially save a lot of material)

forerunnert avatar Nov 05 '20 13:11 forerunnert

@forerunnert

Currently I do the same with SuperSlicer: I have a SL1 profile

i can't for the life of me figure out how to get one of those. in the "add/remove printers" dialog, all i get offered are various FDM ones.


@supermerill

So it should come in some weeks or months.

given you said that 2 years ago, do you have any more insight on their progress by now? kinda looks like they're not doing much for that feature :/

nonchip avatar Oct 26 '21 19:10 nonchip

given you said that 2 years ago, do you have any more insight on their progress by now? kinda looks like they're not doing much for that feature :/

They tested it for fff but the result was worst than the actual support stuff. The PS 2.4 has some improvements. For tree support... maybe after.

supermerill avatar Oct 26 '21 20:10 supermerill

given you said that 2 years ago, do you have any more insight on their progress by now? kinda looks like they're not doing much for that feature :/

They tested it for fff but the result was worst than the actual support stuff. The PS 2.4 has some improvements. For tree support... maybe after.

Happy New Year! Now that PrusaSlicer 2.4 has been released and will be merged in the next version of SuperSlicer, where do we stand on this essential feature of tree supports? For my high detail model prints, tree supports is an invaluable feature. Adding tree supports is the difference between me using SuperSlicer exclusively for all my prints and me today still having to use Cura to avoid otherwise failed prints with my highly complex models.

EDIT: Ignore @nonchip below. That troll and the trolls who follow him obviously are emotionally volatile and cannot handle semi-annual pings. Does he think successful developers move slower than tectonic plates? Does he really think people only speak with each other several times in a lifetime? I would hate to see @nonchip in the middle of midday New York City traffic. He would instantly die of an aneurysm just seeing the spectacle.

hifihedgehog avatar Jan 06 '22 19:01 hifihedgehog

I'll add it to the list of "big things todo", so it can be properly planned

supermerill avatar Jan 07 '22 11:01 supermerill

I'd also love to see Tree Supports added so I don't have to use Cura sometimes.

mrkylegp avatar Jan 19 '22 20:01 mrkylegp

+1

alexvonsiebenthal avatar Feb 26 '22 12:02 alexvonsiebenthal

I'd also like to see this added. I'm really enjoying Superslicer and would appreciate not having to add these separately. Keep up the great work!

blockfeed avatar Mar 23 '22 20:03 blockfeed

add these separately.

@blockfeed how are you adding them separately?

cron410 avatar Mar 23 '22 23:03 cron410

One method is to add them in an sla printer and then export the platter as stl.

supermerill avatar Mar 24 '22 11:03 supermerill

+1

Lecso11 avatar Apr 05 '22 08:04 Lecso11

+1

tommylux avatar Apr 07 '22 00:04 tommylux

+1

raimonds1503 avatar Apr 14 '22 10:04 raimonds1503

+1

hifihedgehog avatar May 16 '22 21:05 hifihedgehog

@Lecso11 @tommylux @raimonds1503 @hifihedgehog how about yall stop spamming and just use the react function if you really want your + seen? -_-

nonchip avatar May 17 '22 08:05 nonchip

One method is to add them in an sla printer and then export the platter as stl.

Hi @supermerill I tried this; the only options I saw were:

  • Zig-Zag
  • Cross
  • Dynamic

Where's the equivalent option for "tree"?

theschles avatar Oct 20 '22 01:10 theschles

Any update on this?

Roycinger avatar Dec 17 '22 17:12 Roycinger

Any update on this?

in general? Tree supports and Organic supports are coming out for Prusaslicer 2.6. Not sure about SuperSlicer.

Tom

tommylux avatar Dec 17 '22 18:12 tommylux

Prusaslicer 2.6 is coming out within the next week with "organic supports" (tree supports)+, and some other cool features.

Will that update be integrated into superslicer, or are the two on completely diverging paths by now? If the former, do we expect this to take weeks or months?

astranberg avatar Jan 27 '23 03:01 astranberg

I was a little taken back I must admit, I was just promoting good enthusiasm and collaboration. But the feature is coming out in 2.6 and the new release looks really cool with organic supports, embossed texts and more cut options. Waiting patiently for this massive release and keeping my eyes out. Kudos to the developers for making such a fantastic tool that brings joy and excitement to the people who use it.

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tommylux avatar Jan 27 '23 08:01 tommylux

soo if @hifihedgehog is done insulting and defaming me on multiple occasions for my single reminder above (by the way those "semi-annually" were 4 people posting the same "+1" in the span of 2 weeks, and funny how me reminding you of the fact that's uselessly pinging everyone involved is "emotionally unstable trolling" while your actively filling a topic with objectively useless messages is somehow "promoting the greater good"; maybe wake up to the fact this is a issue ticket with some expected conduct, not some wild untamed 2000's phpBB, before going all condescendingly "sonny" on girls you don't even know while somehow also phantasizing about having a grasp on the concept of human interaction), can we get back on topic?

nonchip avatar Jan 28 '23 09:01 nonchip

+1

This feature works exceptionally well in PrusaSlicer, and would be a great inclusion in SuperSlicer. Another recent request of such: #3057

AuntJemima avatar Mar 01 '23 09:03 AuntJemima