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feature request: unicode in source

Open tpapp opened this issue 9 years ago • 17 comments

Introduction

Some languages now support Unicode (mostly UTF8) for writing source code. It would be great if one could also use Unicode in Stan source. (Note that comments in UTF8, or any superset that embeds ASCII, are already supported in the sense the parser just ignores them.)

Broadly, there are two possible levels of support:

  1. in variable and function names (eg ϕ), and
  2. in operators (eg ), which provide synonyms for existing ones (eg <=)

Example

This is how the 8 schools example would look like in unicode:

data {
  int<lower=0> J;             // number of schools
  real y[J];                  // estimated treatment effect (school j)
  real<lower=0> σ[J];         // std err of effect estimate (school j)
}
parameters {
  real μ;
  real θ[J];
  real<lower=0> τ;
}
model {
  θ ~ normal(μ, τ); 
  y ~ normal(θ, σ);
}

Possible benefits

  1. more compact source code
  2. better mapping to equations in papers

Possible downsides

  1. editor/entry support
  2. font support
  3. possibly corrupted files

The first two are mitigated by the fact that ASCII is a subset of UTF8, so using the feature is optional.

UTF8 support in various languages which have interfaces for Stan

language literals identifiers operators would UTF8 variables work for interfacing with Stan?
R yes yes no yes
Python yes only from version 3 no yes, even in Python 2, as they are used as literal keys
Julia yes yes yes yes
Matlab yes yes, but needs to be enabled no yes
Stata yes yes, from version 14 no probably?

Editor support

Emacs

See this list for various UTF8 implementations using autocomplete, company-mode, and quail.

See also

tpapp avatar May 09 '16 17:05 tpapp

Python 2 handles UTF-8 fine. (It's just not the default representation.)

ariddell avatar May 10 '16 18:05 ariddell

@ariddell: Can you provide a link with an example/description? Then I could update the list.

tpapp avatar May 11 '16 06:05 tpapp

RStudio should work https://support.rstudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/200532197-Character-Encoding

bgoodri avatar May 11 '16 15:05 bgoodri

@tpapp https://docs.python.org/2/howto/unicode.html Python 3 uses Unicode by default. In Python 2 you need to be explicit about it. In both cases you can have unicode strings in source code.

ariddell avatar May 11 '16 16:05 ariddell

@ariddell: in the page you link I could not find an example with unicode identifiers (only strings, literals, filenames, etc).

tpapp avatar May 11 '16 17:05 tpapp

Here's a link to the section: https://docs.python.org/2/howto/unicode.html#unicode-literals-in-python-source-code

ariddell avatar May 11 '16 17:05 ariddell

Those are unicode literals, not unicode identifiers.

Can you have

éø = 10

where you assign to a unicode literal? Or dictionaries with unicode keys?

  • Bob

On May 11, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Allen Riddell [email protected] wrote:

Here's a link to the exact section: https://docs.python.org/2/howto/unicode.html#unicode-literals-in-python-source-code

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bob-carpenter avatar May 11 '16 19:05 bob-carpenter

You're right. In Python 2.7 you can't have unicode variables. In Python 3 you can. But why does that matter? We only need unicode in the Stan program code. (Parameter lookups aren't affected since keys are and always were strings.)

ariddell avatar May 11 '16 20:05 ariddell

It looks like you use a dictionary structure for variable names.

schools_dat = { 'J': 8, 'y': [28, 8, -3, 7, -1, 1, 18, 12], 'sigma': [15, 10, 16, 11, 9, 11, 10, 18] }

Can the keys be unicode?

RStan can read data values out of the environment if they're named after variables in the Stan program. And it can attach the resulting draws as variables in the environment.

  • Bob

On May 11, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Allen Riddell [email protected] wrote:

You're right. In Python 2.7 you can't have unicode variables. In Python 3 you can. But why does that matter? We only need unicode in the Stan program code. (Parameter lookups aren't affected since keys are and always were strings.)

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bob-carpenter avatar May 11 '16 20:05 bob-carpenter

Python 2 has no problems with unicode dictionary keys. In fact, it can have unicode variables in the environment but you have to reference them via strings indirectly. For example, this works in Python 2:

>>> locals()[u'é'] = 9
>>> locals()[u'é']

(locals is something like baseenv or .GlobalEnv in R)

Bref, there is nothing Python 2 can't do that's relevant to supporting unicode in Stan code. The table above is inaccurate.

On 05/11, Bob Carpenter wrote:

It looks like you use a dictionary structure for variable names.

schools_dat = { 'J': 8, 'y': [28, 8, -3, 7, -1, 1, 18, 12], 'sigma': [15, 10, 16, 11, 9, 11, 10, 18] }

Can the keys be unicode?

RStan can read data values out of the environment if they're named after variables in the Stan program. And it can attach the resulting draws as variables in the environment.

  • Bob

On May 11, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Allen Riddell [email protected] wrote:

You're right. In Python 2.7 you can't have unicode variables. In Python 3 you can. But why does that matter? We only need unicode in the Stan program code. (Parameter lookups aren't affected since keys are and always were strings.)

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ariddell avatar May 12 '16 12:05 ariddell

On May 12, 2016, at 8:20 AM, Allen Riddell [email protected] wrote:

Python 2 has no problems with unicode dictionary keys. In fact, it can have unicode variables in the environment but you have to reference them via strings indirectly. For example, this works in Python 2:

>>> locals()[u'é'] = 9
>>> locals()[u'é']

(locals is something like baseenv or .GlobalEnv in R)

Bref, there is nothing Python 2 can't do that's relevant to supporting unicode in Stan code. The table above is inaccurate.

You should have edit permission on the issues.

  • Bob

bob-carpenter avatar May 12 '16 15:05 bob-carpenter

I was just recording my thought on the matter. I appreciate @tpapp putting work into drafting the issue text and would prefer to leave any edits to him.

ariddell avatar May 12 '16 16:05 ariddell

@ariddell: The table was accurate, but since not all Stan interfaces work the way that R/Julia does, I extended it with the information that is probably most relevant: whether the interfaces, in the way they currently operate, would support UTF8 variables for (1) passing data to Stan and (2) extracting MCMC results. Thanks for pointing this out, this is much more important than the details of UTF8 support in those languages per se.

Not being a STATA user, I am reluctant to make a definitive statement about it. If someone could help with that it would be great.

tpapp avatar May 13 '16 06:05 tpapp

One use of unicode in Stan Program code which should definitely be supported is in comments. Leaving code comments in one's native language is fairly routine in Python/Java/etc. We should at least support that in Stan.

ariddell avatar May 14 '16 23:05 ariddell

Unicode in comments is OK now.

  • Bob

On May 14, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Allen Riddell [email protected] wrote:

One use of unicode in Stan Program code which should definitely be supported is in comments. Leaving code comments in one's native language is fairly routine in Python/Java/etc. We should at least support that in Stan.

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bob-carpenter avatar May 14 '16 23:05 bob-carpenter

Indeed UTF8 comments work fine, and I have been using them for a while. Made a clarification in the issue.

tpapp avatar May 15 '16 07:05 tpapp

UTF8 comments aren't supported in PyStan right now (non-ASCII characters will generate an error). I'll fix this. stan-dev/pystan#223

ariddell avatar May 15 '16 14:05 ariddell