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Added Metal Tag to Syndicate IDs

Open FungiFellow opened this issue 10 months ago • 13 comments

About the PR

I added the Metal Tag to Syndicate IDs.

Why / Balance

Nukies can microwave their ID and copy it repeatedly for nigh AA. I don't think having AA before even entering the same space as the station is balanced.

Technical details

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Breaking changes

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  • tweak: Syndicate IDs make Microwaves explode

FungiFellow avatar Mar 30 '24 22:03 FungiFellow

Meant to set draft.

FungiFellow avatar Mar 30 '24 22:03 FungiFellow

This is a pretty significant nerf to nearly every nukie strategy besides the basic hit armory first ‘stealth ops’ I do think that nukies need to be nerfed somehow, but I don’t think I like further limiting the availability strategies for nukies.

Golinth avatar Mar 31 '24 03:03 Golinth

This is a pretty significant nerf to nearly every nukie strategy besides the basic hit armory first ‘stealth ops’ I do think that nukies need to be nerfed somehow, but I don’t think I like further limiting the availability strategies for nukies.

I don't think 3TC AA is balanced for Nukies to have

FungiFellow avatar Mar 31 '24 05:03 FungiFellow

Far from AA even if you count all 5 IDs as +15TC considering it can dupe access and thus you are not guaranteed anything new, can do 100 cooks and still have only bad access, its just that the average goes up if you manage to avoid frying your syndicards early and remember to try and copy new access every time.

thebadman4662 avatar Mar 31 '24 06:03 thebadman4662

you just buy clown kit and put clown id's, Nerf didnt work lol

ElPidor avatar Apr 01 '24 05:04 ElPidor

you just buy clown kit and put clown id's, Nerf didnt work lol

Guess what ID is about to also get nerfed.

FungiFellow avatar Apr 01 '24 06:04 FungiFellow

Guess what ID is about to also get nerfed.

Unless you create a brand new ID type, im not sure what you could do here. Giving it agent ID would be OP, making the ID metal would make all IDs metal.

Unless you specifically pick clown IDs to not be microwaveable, and the poor syndie clown just has to suffer

Golinth avatar Apr 01 '24 06:04 Golinth

Wouldn't an easier option be to remove the microwave from the nukie base?

Hrosts avatar Apr 02 '24 08:04 Hrosts

microwave should just get removed from the nukie base. i agree this is really stupid for nukies to be able to do

mirrorcult avatar Apr 29 '24 04:04 mirrorcult

Microwave is also gateway to microwave chemistry, you would remove more than just IDs.

thebadman4662 avatar Apr 29 '24 14:04 thebadman4662

they have a hotplate

deltanedas avatar Apr 29 '24 14:04 deltanedas

they have a hotplate

Hotplate can't be used for microwave chem, microwave itself is one of "ingredients".

thebadman4662 avatar Apr 29 '24 15:04 thebadman4662

Hotplate can't be used for microwave chem, microwave itself is one of "ingredients".

To my understanding the microwave is only needed for Aloe / Sutures / Meshes

FungiFellow avatar Apr 29 '24 15:04 FungiFellow

Closed due to feature freeze May 10th-June 14th. Comment to have it reopen after this.

Emisse avatar May 10 '24 16:05 Emisse

Also making them metal doesn't stop the nukies from just buying other id cards from the uplink

Brandon-Huu avatar Jun 13 '24 05:06 Brandon-Huu

then you at least have to pay for aa instead of literally free aa

deltanedas avatar Jun 13 '24 06:06 deltanedas