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[v2.1.1 Bug] - Mohawk can Not lift a Ural, but a Huey/Orca can

Open The-Euphoria opened this issue 9 years ago • 22 comments

Hello, I've just updated to version 2.1.1 released this morning, and I noticed that the Mohawk can not lift a Ural, but a much small helicopter like the Huey and Orca 'can' lift a Ural. This seems a little strange as the Mohawk is 2-3x the size of Huey.

Any idea on how I could fix this please??? Thank you

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 07 '16 13:09 The-Euphoria

Do you know how to run scripting commands in the editor?

Can you tell me the mass of the vehicle and the lift capability of the helis?

Here's how to get the ural mass:

systemChat str (getMass NAME_OF_URAL);

Here's how to get the heli lift capability:

systemChat str ([NAME_OF_HELI] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Euphoria [email protected] wrote:

Hello, I've just updated to version 2.1.1 released this morning, and I noticed that the Mohawk can not lift a Ural, but a much small helicopter like the Huey and Orca 'can' lift a Ural. This seems a little strange as the Mohawk is 2-3x the size of Huey.

Any idea on how I could fix this please??? Thank you

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sethduda avatar Sep 07 '16 15:09 sethduda

I'm sorry I don't know how to run script commands, I'm very new to modding ARMA/Exile servers so I'm learning the basics at the moment. I'll have a look online and see if I can work out what you mean and how to do it.

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 07 '16 16:09 The-Euphoria

Do you know how to use the editor to place the vehicles and name them?

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I'm sorry I don't know how to run script commands, I'm very new to modding ARMA/Exile servers so I'm learning the basics at the moment. I'll have a look online and see if I can work out what you mean and how to do it.

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sethduda avatar Sep 07 '16 16:09 sethduda

No again, sorry :disappointed: I'm very very new to this. I'm trying to learn now how to run those scripts commands you posted, but if you can offer me any advice or guide on what to do, that would really help.

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 07 '16 18:09 The-Euphoria

Ok, open up the in-game editor. Then on the right hand side, you'll see a list of units/vehicles/etc. Find the vehicles you want, and drag them onto the map. Hold Ctrl down before you release your mouse button to create a empty vehicle (otherwise it will be populated with AI).

Once you have the vehicles placed, do the same thing for a unit (this will be the player).

Then, press play on the bottom right of the screen.

If that works, press escape and return to the editor. Then, double click on the vehicles, and give them names (e.g. V1, V2... etc).

Then, press play again.

Then, press escape, and paste the following code into the code dialog (but change NAME_OF_URAL to the name you gave the vehicle in the editor):

systemChat str (getMass NAME_OF_URAL);

Then, press exec local, and press escape to close the dialog window. You should then see a number appear on the bottom left of your screen. That's the mass of the vehicle.

Do the same thing for the helicopters, but use this command:

systemChat str ([NAME_OF_HELI] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Euphoria [email protected] wrote:

No again, sorry 😞 I'm very very new to this. I'm trying to learn now how to run those scripts commands you posted, but if you can offer me any advice or guide on what to do, that would really help.

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sethduda avatar Sep 07 '16 18:09 sethduda

Thank you, I'm trying that now.

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 07 '16 18:09 The-Euphoria

Thank you, some of that that worked. This is the Ural truck that can not be lifted by the large (Mohawk) Heli (Mass = "8699.97" - Ural)

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 07 '16 18:09 The-Euphoria

20160907223246_1 Ok, I have tried 5 or 6 times to run this script for the Heli. I renamed the heli "H1", I tried a few different helicopters renaming them H1, H2, H3... etc.. I ran "systemChat str ([H1] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);" but no numbers appeared on screen.

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 07 '16 19:09 The-Euphoria

Make sure you have the advanced sling loading addon enabled before you start arma.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Euphoria [email protected] wrote:

Ok, I have tried 5 or 6 times to run this script for the Heli. I renamed the heli "H1", I tried a few different helicopters renaming them H1, H2, H3... etc.. I ran "systemChat str ([H1] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);" but no numbers appeared on screen.

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sethduda avatar Sep 07 '16 20:09 sethduda

Oh ok, sorry as I said I'm very new to this. How do I make sure I have the advanced sling loading addon enabled??? If I join the server it works, but only for Admins, not normal players. is that something to do with it???

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 00:09 The-Euphoria

Subscribe to the addon in steam, and then choose the addon in the Arma launcher before starting the game.

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Oh ok, sorry as I said I'm very new to this. How do I make sure I have the advanced sling loading addon enabled??? If I join the server it works, but only for Admins, not normal players. is that something to do with it???

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sethduda avatar Sep 08 '16 02:09 sethduda

Ok trying that now.

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 02:09 The-Euphoria

Ok sorry about that. These are the results:

Ural Truck - Mass = "8699.97" Large Mohawk Heli - Lift Capability = "4000" <<<< This is the one that can Not lift it Small Huey Heli - Lift Capability = "2000" <<<< This is one of a few heli's that Can lift it

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 02:09 The-Euphoria

No people don't need it installed. If admins only have the option, it's likely a configuration issue with infistar. Are you the owner of the server?

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P.S. Sorry one other quick question - Does every player on my server have to install this mod on Steam and in the Arma launcher to be able to use it on the server??? Is that why it only works for admins at the moment??

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sethduda avatar Sep 08 '16 02:09 sethduda

Yes I am.

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 02:09 The-Euphoria

Oh! Also I have this info for you:

Another heli called the "Orca" has the same "2000" lift cap as the "Huey", but the Orca cannot lift the Ural truck, yet the Huey can lift it :confused:

Also, the tiny heli: "MH-9 Hummingbird" has a lift cap of only "500" but it can lift vehicles with a mass of 2000!

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 02:09 The-Euphoria

To fix the admin issue, you need to configure infistar settings. Set both of these to false:

KCM = false;

CMC = false;

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016, Euphoria [email protected] wrote:

Oh! Also I have this info for you:

Another heli called the "Orca" has the same "2000" lift cap as the "Huey", but the Orca cannot lift the Ural truck, yet the Huey can lift it 😕

Also, the tiny heli: "MH-9 Hummingbird" has a lift cap of only "500" but it can lift vehicles with a mass of 2000!

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sethduda avatar Sep 08 '16 03:09 sethduda

Thank you, I'll try that now.

Very strange regarding the lifting issues with some heli's, what do you think the cause is??

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 03:09 The-Euphoria

Likely something configured incorrectly with the Huey. Can you tell me it's class name? Run this to get it:

systemChat str (typeOf HELI_NAME);

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016, Euphoria [email protected] wrote:

Thank you, I'll try that now.

Very strange regarding the lifting issues with some heli's, what do you think the cause is??

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sethduda avatar Sep 08 '16 03:09 sethduda

Exile_Chopper_Huey_Green Exile_Chopper_Huey_Desert Exile_Chopper_Huey_Armed_Green Exile_Chopper_Huey_Armed_Desert

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 03:09 The-Euphoria

Oh ok, so these are all exile vehicles. Very likely something is just misconfigured with the helis. Unfortunately this is likely an issue that I won't be able to fix. Maybe you could raise the issue with exile developers. From what I can tell, it's a problem with the heli config and not the sling load script.

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sethduda avatar Sep 08 '16 03:09 sethduda

Ok, I understand. I'll message the Exile devs and let them know.

Thank you so much for taking the time to help but also to explain everything to me, I really appreciate that as I'm trying to learn as much as I can.

Thanks again and I will definitely tell everyone about your mods, because they really are awesome and made the game so much better :+1:

The-Euphoria avatar Sep 08 '16 03:09 The-Euphoria