Improve Requirements for Organization Secret Trophy

[rayhanadev]

After finding out that the new secret trophy requires the person to be in [REDACTED] organizations, the first reaction would be to make [REDACTED] organizations to get it. Unsurprisingly this works, however it doesn't seem right. Instead there should be checking and requirements on the organizations before awarding the trophy:

Proposals:

1. The organization must be (at least) a week old
2. The organization must contain more than one account
3. The organization must contain one or more repositories
4. ~~The person should be in at least one organization that was not created by them~~* **

* I believe this one might be controversial. Any thoughts? ** Dropped this

[ryo-ma]

I got your feelings. Regarding 2. and 3., I think it a good idea to add to the rules. I think 1. has little effect on the problem. I couldn't understand the meaning of 4. well.

Alternatively, there may be a way to add value by applying rule 2. to create a new trophy. ex. Big Org Owner: The organization must contain than ten accounts and, must be the owner of its organization.

[rayhanadev]

@ryo-ma gotcha, if you want I can open a PR adding in 2. and 3. to the current trophy.

I couldn't understand the meaning of 4. well.

So if a user is in three public organizations and they created (i.e. they are the owner of) two organizations then the third one must be an outside organization they are a member of in order to get the trophy. It kinda makes sure they didn't just create three organizations and add fake accounts to it. More credibility.

Alternatively, there may be a way to add value by applying rule 2. to create a new trophy. ex. Big Org Owner: The organization must contain than ten accounts and, must be the owner of its organization.

I think there are a fair bit too many secret trophies 😅. Maybe we can make this one a ranked trophy starting at an organization with 2 accounts and working up through the ranks?

[spenserblack]

I understand the reasons for 1. and 4., but here are my thoughts on it:

1.

This just means the user has to wait a week to get the trophy.

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4.

It kinda makes sure they didn't just create three organizations and add fake accounts to it.

If I have real account A and fake account B, then creating 2 organizations with A and 1 with B would pass this requirement, wouldn't it?

I also think that 4. would be biased against some very important contributors. The meaning of creating an organization and joining an organization are different. To create an organization is to be a leader in a project IMO. To join an organization is to be a very important contributor, but not necessarily the leader/creator of something. Is it fair that someone who is always the leader wouldn't get the trophy?

[rayhanadev]

@spenserblack

This just means the user has to wait a week to get the trophy.

Fair enough, but more "secure" is better than not secure at all.

I also think that 4. would be biased against some very important contributors.

Yeah that's what I was running in the back of my mind and I do agree with you. I'll drop 4. from the list then.

[ryo-ma]

@RayhanADev I got it. If you make a pull request about 2. and 3., I will accept it.

[ryo-ma]

@Time-dragon Can you explain why it's a bad idea?

[ryo-ma]

you get tired of making more on your account so you resort to organizations.

I don't understand the situation.

It is officially stated that the GitHub Organization is aimed at collaboration. https://docs.github.com/en/organizations/collaborating-with-groups-in-organizations/about-organizations

[ryo-ma]

@RayhanADev After all, do you make a pull request on this issue?

[rayhanadev]

@ryo-ma yeah I’m currently moving to a different city right now so I’m on my phone, not my computer. I’ll have it setup tomorrow and I can continue what I was working on but if that’s too late feel free to go ahead and PR yourself.

Sorry about this, I tried to finish ASAP but the movers came much earlier than expected!

[ryo-ma]

@RayhanADev It's not particularly urgent, so it's okay at your own pace. Living in a different city is exciting!

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[D3vil0p3r]

Currently is there a chance to add in "Star Trophy" also the stars coming from the org I am the owner? If so, how?

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[D3vil0p3r]

Still relevant.

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