Ryan Cramer

> It's surprising to me that the sort order can be different like this, seeing as it's not like the order is changing randomly - I can execute the same...

@adrianbj Are you still experiencing the issue? I just tried to duplicate here, using FieldtypePageTitleLanguage and FieldtypeTextLanguage, and it worked correctly both when updating an existing page and when creating...

@adrianbj Just tried from the API with the same two multi-language fields, and it also worked. Maybe we're back to it just affecting VerifiedURL, so I'll have to try that....

@adrianbj I just setup another test using a VerifiedURL field (name: test_verified_url) and the same $options (except the 2 URL/host ones at the bottom) and function call (arrayToPage) as you....

Thanks for the help debugging this. This is good new information. Just for an additional data point I wanted to double check that everything still works interactively, and that it's...

@adrianbj I suppose it's possible. In addition to your `$page->of(false);` try placing a `$pages->of(false);` call before all of your code. That disables output formatting for any pages loaded from that...

@tuomassalo That's a strange behavior, but from our standpoint there's no difference between add(addPage)) and add($tmp), so we might be looking at an odd PHP behavior or bug. If the...

@16th-earl I agree that makes sense, but NullPage is its own type, and if I look at the phpdoc for the method it says it can only return null, so...

@adrianbj Do you have access control enabled for that user template? If so, it's no longer inheriting access from the admin template, so you'd need to control access from your...

@adrianbj I can't duplicate it here. These are all the steps I take setting up alternate user templates and parents. Anything I'm missing, or any variation from what you did?...