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v4: kerning for "written" looks wrong for some reason

Open miragecraft opened this issue 1 year ago • 5 comments

Edit: this issue was originally about the kerning between "tt" being too tight, but after testing I'm no longer sure and gave up because I'm not that knowledgeable about font design.

Describe the bug Under v4, the word "written" looks wrong for some reason, initially I thought it's because the kerning between "tt" was too tight, but after testing words like "little" I realized increasing the kerning between "tt" might not be the answer.

To Reproduce Steps to reproduce the behavior:

  1. Display the word "written" with Inter v4
  2. Kerning between "tt" feels way too tight, or is the kerning between "ri" too loose? I can't tell anymore.

Expected behavior More natural looking kerning.

Screenshots image

Environment

  • OS: Win10
  • Firefox
  • Inter Variable. Version 4.000;git-a52131595

miragecraft avatar Dec 25 '23 20:12 miragecraft

"tt" is discretionary ligature. If the kerning there feels too tight, you might want to try turning them off?

TaigaYamada avatar Dec 25 '23 23:12 TaigaYamada

"tt" is discretionary ligature. If the kerning there feels too tight, you might want to try turning them off?

It's already off, discretionary ligature is off by default.

Do you mean turning them on? If I turn it on it disconnects "tt" so it looks less tight, but I don't like its effects in other instances, such as how "fi" gets fused together.

miragecraft avatar Dec 25 '23 23:12 miragecraft

Oh, since "tt" is one of the possible combinations replaced by discretionary ligatures, I thought the reason for them being connected in your image was discretionary ligatures.

I thought Inter's "tt" was disconnected by default. My bad

TaigaYamada avatar Dec 26 '23 02:12 TaigaYamada

No problem, I've done some more comparison with v3 and it looks like both "tt" and "ff" are much tighter than before.

I very much dislike the change, things like "written", "little", "ruffle" etc. looks overly compressed in the middle.

miragecraft avatar Dec 26 '23 19:12 miragecraft

The tt is probably too tight. If you compare it to the Apple variable System Font or to the Microsoft Segoe UI Variable it looks tight by comparison. And the ut in About also looks tight.

kenmcd avatar Dec 27 '23 01:12 kenmcd

The tt is probably too tight.

Agreed

rsms avatar Mar 25 '24 17:03 rsms

This looks better, right?

rsms avatar Mar 25 '24 17:03 rsms

After 1703fcda04c3e132499bdb020d125cf0d5f478f8:

rsms avatar Mar 25 '24 22:03 rsms