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On Windows 10 x64 bit the Installer Version x64 bit run slower than normal and make slow the whole system

Open alecos71 opened this issue 2 years ago • 13 comments

I downloaded the x64 bit version with installer, I replaced with the installer the original microsoft notepad with Notepad3.

All times that I open a file (text, php, js, html) with Notepad3 my desktop becomes slow, other apps are quite busy and after closing Notepad3 my desktop all comes back to normal.

I suspect that when Notepad3 is open it slows down the entire operating system, it may be that it uses up the PC resources excessively and produces more or less noticeable slowdowns, the strange thing is that as soon as I close Notepad3 everything returns to normal speed and not there is no slowdown.

Could it be that Notepad3 x64 bit is badly optimized?

I have Windows 10 Home x64bit with intel core i7 4790 @ 4.00 Ghz, 16 GB RAM DDR3, SSD, 4K HDR Monitor, nVidia GT 1030 2 GB DDR5.

Some suggestion?

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alecos71 avatar Jan 22 '22 18:01 alecos71

Very strange, I've installed Notepad3 on many Windows 7 and Windows 10 and never I've noticed an abnormally slow down. 🤔

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz

Notepad3 (x64) v5.22.121.1 beta (dkt1-amr)
Compiler: MS Visual C++ 2022 v17.0.5 (VC v1930)
OS Version: Windows 10  Version 21H2 (Build 19044)
Windows Colors 'Dark-Mode' Theme is NO SUPPORTED.
Scintilla v515
Lexilla v514
Oniguruma v7.0.0
- Process is not elevated
- User is in Admin-Group.
- Locale -> en-GB (CP:'ANSI (CP-1252)')
- Current Encoding -> 'Unicode (UTF-8)'
- Screen-Resolution -> 1920 x 1080 [pix]
- Display-DPI -> 96 x 96  (Scale: 100%).
- Rendering-Technology -> 'DIRECT-WRITE'
- Zoom -> 100%.
- Current Lexer -> 'Text Files'

DKT_2022-01-22_223732


Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz

Notepad3 (x64) v5.22.121.1 beta (dkt1-amr)
Compiler: MS Visual C++ 2022 v17.0.5 (VC v1930)
OS Version: Windows 10  Version 21H2 (Build 19044)
Windows Colors 'Dark-Mode' Theme is NO SUPPORTED.
Scintilla v515
Lexilla v514
Oniguruma v7.0.0
- Process is not elevated
- User is in Admin-Group.
- Locale -> en-GB (CP:'ANSI (CP-1252)')
- Current Encoding -> 'Unicode (UTF-8)'
- Screen-Resolution -> 1600 x 900 [pix]
- Display-DPI -> 96 x 96  (Scale: 100%).
- Rendering-Technology -> 'DIRECT-WRITE'
- Zoom -> 100%.
- Current Lexer -> 'Text Files'

Laptop_HP_2022-01-22_222710

hpwamr avatar Jan 22 '22 21:01 hpwamr

I'm running windows 10 on 3840x2160 pixel of resolution on 60 hz and 135 khz.

alecos71 avatar Jan 22 '22 22:01 alecos71

My suggestion: 🤔

hpwamr avatar Jan 23 '22 05:01 hpwamr

Notepad3 (x64) v5.21.1129.1 (ba6de2c2)
Compiler: MS Visual C++ 2022 v17.0.(0-1) (VC v1930)
OS Version: Windows 10  Version 20H2 (Build 19042)
Windows Colors 'Dark-Mode' Theme is NO SUPPORTED.
Scintilla v511
Lexilla v511
Oniguruma v7.0.0
- Process is not elevated
- User is in Admin-Group.
- Locale -> it-IT (CP:'ANSI (CP-1252)')
- Current Encoding -> 'Unicode (UTF-8)'
- Screen-Resolution -> 3840 x 2160 [pix]
- Display-DPI -> 216 x 216  (Scale: 225%).
- Rendering-Technology -> 'DIRECT-WRITE'
- Zoom -> 100%.
- Current Lexer -> 'Text File'

This is my config about Notepad3

alecos71 avatar Jan 23 '22 16:01 alecos71

Use the Task-Manager to identify the process which cause the CPU utilization). Maybe it is Notepad3 or another process (triggered by Notepad3, e.g. an Anti-Malware Scanner).

Quite strange, cause you are the first one, reporting this issue and we are not able to reproduce this.

RaiKoHoff avatar Jan 24 '22 07:01 RaiKoHoff

Notice the Notepad3 window under the Task Manager, the GPU when Notepad3 is open has very high values!

The value of 88,2% is related to Desktop Window Management when Notepad3 is open!

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alecos71 avatar Jan 24 '22 12:01 alecos71

🤔 very strange. Just poking around in the fog: try to set Menu->Settings->Technology->Rendering->GDI (no ligatures).

RaiKoHoff avatar Jan 24 '22 16:01 RaiKoHoff

Notepad3 (x64) v5.21.1129.1 (ba6de2c2)
Compiler: MS Visual C++ 2022 v17.0.(0-1) (VC v1930)
OS Version: Windows 10  Version 20H2 (Build 19042)
Windows Colors 'Dark-Mode' Theme is NO SUPPORTED.
Scintilla v511
Lexilla v511
Oniguruma v7.0.0
- Process is not elevated
- User is in Admin-Group.
- Locale -> it-IT (CP:'ANSI (CP-1252)')
- Current Encoding -> 'Unicode (UTF-8)'
- Screen-Resolution -> 3840 x 2160 [pix]
- Display-DPI -> 216 x 216  (Scale: 225%).
- Rendering-Technology -> 'GDI'
- Zoom -> 100%.
- Current Lexer -> 'Web Source Code'

With GDI (no ligatures) seems did the trick at moment, maybe should be set by default to this value in future releases?

alecos71 avatar Jan 24 '22 18:01 alecos71

With GDI (no ligatures) seems did the trick at moment, maybe should be set by default to this value in future releases?

Negative, it would be a huge regression ! 😬

hpwamr avatar Jan 24 '22 18:01 hpwamr

For Your Info: A search on "Desktop Window Manager (dwm.exe) High CPU Usage" shows many issues possible related with a bad driver of the Display Adaptor. 🤔

* [Desktop Window Manager (dwm.exe) high RAM usage](https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/desktop-window-manager-dwmexe-high-ram-usage/4ebc5d9c-b7a4-431d-865b-04c308e9b002?page=1)

* [Desktop Window Manager dwm.exe consumes high CPU or Memory](https://www.thewindowsclub.com/desktop-window-manager-dwm-exe)

* [6 Ways to Fix Desktop Window Manager DWM.exe High CPU Usage](https://tencomputer.com/desktop-window-manager-dwm-exe-high-cpu/)

* [Fix: Desktop Window Manager High CPU Usage ‘dwm.exe’](https://appuals.com/fix-desktop-window-manager-high-cpu-usage-dwm-exe/)

* [dwm.exe Desktop Window Manager High CPU on Windows 10 [Solved]](https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/desktop-window-manager-dwm-exe-high-cpu-or-memory-on-windows-10-solved/)

It's only over GPU not CPU, it happens only with notepad3 open...

alecos71 avatar Jan 24 '22 19:01 alecos71

Thanks, the causes are several,

  • HDR on 4K Monitor (3840x2160)
  • Non-optimized nVidia drivers
  • Apps not optimized for very high resolutions

At the moment I want HDR, I want 4K resolution, I want use my nVidia graphic card, other is not my stuff.

I appreciate you efforts. Thanks very much.

alecos71 avatar Jan 25 '22 16:01 alecos71