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live session - is it possible?

Open OrionRandD opened this issue 4 years ago • 15 comments

Does qtox allow me to share my screen? Say, to show me typing a Vim/Emacs live session to my students?

OrionRandD avatar Jun 04 '20 11:06 OrionRandD

Yes. You can select full screen or it's part in Audio/Video settings as video device

Diadlo avatar Jun 04 '20 18:06 Diadlo

I've searched the internet for a video showing this feature in qtox. But, there is no such video showing this feature. Even in youtube. The problem is that I do not have another device - only one laptop for me to see it into action. All the videos in the internet showing qtox only comment on general features. Do you know anyone showing this feature in a video tutorial? Many thx for replying :)

OrionRandD avatar Jun 04 '20 19:06 OrionRandD

ToxID for EchoBot from the video: 76518406F6A9F2217E8DC487CC783C25CC16A15EB36FF32E335A235342C48A39218F515C39A6

Video "tutorial"

Diadlo avatar Jun 05 '20 11:06 Diadlo

@Diadlo Great! Thx a lot for showing me this feature. I think it should be included in the official Qtox channel/site for people to see it. Especially teachers who are trying to fly away from zoom, skype and proprietary vid-conf software :)

OrionRandD avatar Jun 05 '20 12:06 OrionRandD

@Diadlo Just to make sure, do you mind if I add this tutorial to the wiki as per OrionRandD's suggestion?

skeletonium avatar Jun 05 '20 17:06 skeletonium

@skeletonium I'm not quite good at writing. Feel free to create it yourself if you want. But if it's really needed, I can try :)

Diadlo avatar Jun 05 '20 18:06 Diadlo

@Diadlo Oh, no, I only meant to ask your permission to upload the video. Like this: https://wiki.tox.chat/clients/qtox#screen_sharing I'll add credits in the file description

skeletonium avatar Jun 05 '20 19:06 skeletonium

@skeletonium Oh.. sorry, misread your message. Do whatever you want with video

Diadlo avatar Jun 05 '20 19:06 Diadlo

@Diadlo Great idea. Perhaps you could expand the video a little more to also show the other qTox features. Since you got the permission to do so. ;)

OrionRandD avatar Jun 05 '20 19:06 OrionRandD

@OrionRandD Seems you meant me instead, but I will probably make some additional screenshots in the future, yes.

skeletonium avatar Jun 05 '20 19:06 skeletonium

@skeletonium Oh. Yeah. Sorry. Anyway, that will be very good add for the project ;)

OrionRandD avatar Jun 05 '20 20:06 OrionRandD

@Diadlo @skeletonium @sudden6 Hi all. I would like to suggest on you the following: this nice & very needed feature currently located within GUI in hidden place. For that my suggestion is to detach it from current place in GUI & re-locate it within "Video call" GUI because this feature unusually needed through out whole length of video call/conference. User usually need to share screen at intermittent way, for example, to show them picture from an atlas or a scientific book ...... So, implement new feature to add "Share screen" option within GUI of video call is much better than current state. Currently, user need to leave chat window & go into setting & change video then return ... this non-perfect & hidden .... If you agree with me about this please inform me, so that I will open new feature request issue.

@OrionRandD Do you tried Jitsi ? It is very cure & secure video conference & open source free of charge application. Though it is centralized, but has new end to end encryption option. You can even use it from browser without install any thing. See the following: https://jitsi.org/ & bellow is the official instance of developers team: https://meet.jit.si/ There are many other instances & every one can build heir/his instance (server), like these: https://meet.infomaniak.com/ & https://calls.disroot.org/ But I found that inspite "infomaniak" is a great company, the official developer team instance is better than other options that I know ! Please be ware: e2ee is not working currently with Firefox. It is only available on Chromium/Chrome browsers & their derivatives. It is only available on desktop application but not in mobile applications. You can download desktop application from this link: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases Also, please notice that currently the maximum capacity of https://meet.jit.si instance is only 75 person per video room. They working hardly to increase capacity to more than 100 .....

Nokia808 avatar Jun 07 '20 07:06 Nokia808

On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 12:38:55AM -0700, Nokia808 wrote:

[1]@Diadlo [2]@skeletonium [3]@sudden6 Hi all. I would like to suggest on you the following: this nice & very needed feature currently located within GUI in hidden place. For that my suggestion is to detach it from current place in GUI & re-locate it within "Video call" GUI because this feature unusually needed through out whole length of video call/conference. User usually need to share screen at intermittent way, for example, to show them picture from an atlas or a scientific book ...... So, implement new feature to add "Share screen" option within GUI of video call is much better than current state. Currently, user need to leave chat window & go into setting & change video then return ... this non-perfect & hidden .... If you agree with me about this please inform me, so that I will open new feature request issue.

I totally agree with this new feature. I also find a little annoying of having to leave chat window and go into settings to share the desktop. And I also had thought about this proposal with myself: "Why they do not implement a easier way to share the desktop?". I hope that this suggestion works

[4]@OrionRandD Do you tried Jitsi ? It is very cure & secure video conference & open source free of charge application. Though it is centralized, but has new end to end encryption option. You can even use it from browser without install any thing. See the following: [5]https://jitsi.org/ & bellow is the official instance of developers team: [6]https://meet.jit.si/ There are many other instances & every one can build heir/his instance (server), like these: [7]https://meet.infomaniak.com/ & [8]https://calls.disroot.org/ But I found that inspite "infomaniak" is a great company, the official developer team instance is better than other options that I know ! Please be ware: e2ee is not working currently with Firefox. It is only available on Chromium/Chrome browsers & their derivatives. It is only available on desktop application but not in mobile applications. You can download desktop application from this link: [9]https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases Also, please notice that currently the maximum capacity of [10]https://meet.jit.si instance is only 75 person per video room. They working hardly to increase capacity to more than 100 .....

Yes. I know Jitsi very well, including the electron app for it. But, my problem with Jitsi, for now, is my low bandwidth. That's why, for me, ate the moment, qTox is a better option. It is simpler, more secure, and, since I do not need to set a room for many people by now, it fits me well. But, thx for trying to help me again :)

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  1. https://github.com/Diadlo
  2. https://github.com/skeletonium
  3. https://github.com/sudden6
  4. https://github.com/OrionRandD
  5. https://jitsi.org/
  6. https://meet.jit.si/
  7. https://meet.infomaniak.com/
  8. https://calls.disroot.org/
  9. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases
  10. https://meet.jit.si/
  11. https://github.com/qTox/qTox/issues/6165#issuecomment-640171615
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OrionRandD avatar Jun 07 '20 12:06 OrionRandD

@Nokia808 Personally, I do not use video calls and desktop sharing myself, but it seems it would be a better UI for user experience. So if you want to make a feature request for it, I agree that you have the right idea.

skeletonium avatar Jun 07 '20 23:06 skeletonium

I would also like a more easily discoverable "share screen" button in the calling UI. Maybe a separate call button "call with screen sharing" that asks if you want to select a region?

dpriskorn avatar Sep 11 '20 07:09 dpriskorn