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IDLE - remove all bare excepts

Open f52c13af-a5a0-4c40-a7a2-6ce855459ec8 opened this issue 13 years ago • 9 comments

BPO 15313
Nosy @terryjreedy, @serwy

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created_at = <Date 2012-07-10.02:27:04.265>
labels = ['expert-IDLE', 'type-bug', '3.7']
title = 'IDLE - remove all bare excepts'
updated_at = <Date 2017-06-30.01:02:35.588>
user = 'https://github.com/serwy'

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There are a lot of bare exceptions in IDLE. Here's the output of "grep -n 'except:' *.py"

AutoComplete.py:184: except: AutoComplete.py:209: except: Debugger.py:172: except: Debugger.py:344: except: EditorWindow.py:999: except: ObjectBrowser.py:38: except: ObjectBrowser.py:100: except: PyShell.py:133: except: # but debugger may not be active right now.... PyShell.py:154: except: PyShell.py:161: except: PyShell.py:176: except: PyShell.py:433: except: PyShell.py:742: except: PyShell.py:869: except: PyShell.py:1043: except: PyShell.py:1096: except: PyShell.py:1193: except: PyShell.py:1214: except: PyShell.py:1245: except: rpc.py:106: except: rpc.py:206: except: run.py:88: except: run.py:120: except: run.py:125: except: run.py:248: except: run.py:332: except: SearchEngine.py:72: except: StackViewer.py:66: except: WindowList.py:47: except:

Slowly, these exceptions should be refined to include the exact exception being caught.

And possibly change the except clause. The except clause at PyShell 1245 was 'pass', which masked the issue of bpo-13532 and was changed to 'raise' to effectively remove the try: except: to make the unknown problem more visible. It should perhaps be really removed if and when all calls to PyShell.write(s) are properly guarded to make sure 's' is writable.

terryjreedy avatar Jul 10 '12 04:07 terryjreedy

Line 1245 is part of this code (in time, these line numbers will change.)

    try:
        self.text.mark_gravity("iomark", "right")
        OutputWindow.write(self, s, tags, "iomark")
        self.text.mark_gravity("iomark", "left")
    except:
        raise ###pass  # ### 11Aug07 KBK if we are expecting exceptions
                       \# let's find out what they are and be specific.

The delegator chain that sits between OutputWindow.write and the Tkinter text.insert method can raise any error. (The ColorDelegator would raise a TypeError when "s" was not a string). I'd rather not replace this with "except Exception:" since the delegators should catch their own errors.

I suggest removing this try/catch block.

Also, bpo-13582 will become relevant on Windows since modifying the bare excepts may let uncaught exceptions be written to stderr, causing IDLE to crash.

RA's patch for bpo-16261 suggests

diff -r b76d2d8db81f Lib/idlelib/PyShell.py
--- a/Lib/idlelib/PyShell.py	Mon Dec 17 13:43:14 2012 +0530
+++ b/Lib/idlelib/PyShell.py	Wed Jan 09 19:10:26 2013 +0530
@@ -152,7 +152,7 @@
         lineno = int(float(text.index("insert")))
         try:
             self.breakpoints.remove(lineno)
-        except:
+        except ValueError:
             pass
         text.tag_remove("BREAK", "insert linestart",\
                         "insert lineend +1char")

terryjreedy avatar Nov 08 '13 22:11 terryjreedy

Hi, I just did grep -n 'except:' *.py on the latest main (f19f1d8563fb3abbb673812f16e2be5f10af42e4), but did not find any bare excepts.

Would like to confirm whether we should close this one? Thanks!

Lee-W avatar Sep 05 '25 07:09 Lee-W

We can close thanks for finding it! @Lee-W

corona10 avatar Sep 05 '25 08:09 corona10

I don't know what @Lee-W actually did, but the instances listed above are nearly all still present. I rechecked pyshell.py and all 11 are still there.

terryjreedy avatar Sep 06 '25 06:09 terryjreedy

I tried the command grep -n 'except:' *.py listed above. I just noticed it probably should be grep -n 'except:' **/*.py above. Sorry for messing it up.

Lee-W avatar Sep 06 '25 06:09 Lee-W