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Hotend wires get damaged due wrong cable-holder

Open mariusvw opened this issue 5 years ago • 16 comments

Lately I got a several MK3 upgrades in service, it happens they all run into the problem where the hotend wires get too low and hit the heatbed cover bolt where the bolt-end is facing up.

Screenshot 2019-05-19 at 09 54 44

Here someone already started a discussion about this with a good photo showing what happens.

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/b9dxhc/just_noticed_that_the_red_wire_coming_out_of_the/

Again, I am willing to help developing on improvements. Just need the right files and workflow.

mariusvw avatar May 19 '19 07:05 mariusvw

Simple modification, I have changed the heatbed cable cover to use the problematic screw flipped around. So now you put a nut on the underside, screw goes in from top-down, and sits counterbored inside the printed part to avoid the sharp end of the bolt sticking in the air and causing this problem. SCAD and STL files linked below.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wAVW9g4GOHe4tTdY2j6lgEapmjQKBeSA?usp=sharing

austinvojta avatar May 19 '19 13:05 austinvojta

That is one part of the solution, will add the second solution to the cable holder later this evening.

Side-question, isn't it better to add the files in a pull request instead of Google Docs?

mariusvw avatar May 20 '19 07:05 mariusvw

Probably so! I have never made a full request before, don't know how to do it. Also I think Prusa has reasoning to leave the screw entering from the bottom - it leaves less chance to create a short circuit accidentally between contacts on the bed if someone were inserting/removing screw while bed is powered. So not sure they want to change the file.

On Mon, May 20, 2019, 2:33 AM Marius van Witzenburg < [email protected]> wrote:

That is one part of the solution, will add the second solution to the cable holder later this evening.

Side-question, isn't it better to add the files in a pull request instead of Google Docs?

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austinvojta avatar May 20 '19 07:05 austinvojta

We will go with similar solution as @austinvojta is suggesting, this is currently finishing tests and once goes to production it will be updated here - matter of days. It's already covered here atm https://manual.prusa3d.com/Guide/7.+Heatbed++&+PSU+assembly+(Black+PSU)/1153#s26163

akukan avatar May 21 '19 09:05 akukan

This solves the heatbed issue but are there also working plans on the Xaxis body/cable guide? Cause this is actually the reason why the wires get ~1.5mm lower than in the previous version. Since the cable holder got removed from the repository I did not started on updating this part.

Another thing for the heatbed part is if you'd like I'd want to add in something to prevent short circuiting the heatbed wires.

mariusvw avatar May 21 '19 09:05 mariusvw

@akukan there is a risk that, during maintenance, someone shortcut + and - of the heated bed with the wrench. Maybe you can keep your previous solution and add a washer on the screw head.

gregsaun avatar May 21 '19 10:05 gregsaun

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Panayiotis-git avatar May 21 '19 11:05 Panayiotis-git

:satisfied: you know how that goes, we all went there I think... There is a safer way so why taking the risk?

gregsaun avatar May 21 '19 18:05 gregsaun

As part as a solution to this without reprinting the heatbed cover yet till feedback from Prusa I restored and adjusted the cable-holder.

There is an extra cable tie and angled cut-off close to the body to keep the wires up.

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cable-holder.zip

mariusvw avatar May 22 '19 20:05 mariusvw

@mariusvw Do you need help doing a pull request?

rrauenza avatar May 25 '19 20:05 rrauenza

@rrauenza no help needed, just didn't made one since my other PR's are not getting processed.

mariusvw avatar May 25 '19 22:05 mariusvw

@rrauenza no help needed, just didn't made one since my other PR's are not getting processed.

For what it's worth, I did print yours out for my upcoming upgrade... Thanks for the change. You might also put it on thingiverse?

rrauenza avatar May 28 '19 16:05 rrauenza

Semms like a good improvement :-)

ManuGithubSteam avatar Jul 07 '19 08:07 ManuGithubSteam

@rrauenza no help needed, just didn't made one since my other PR's are not getting processed.

For what it's worth, I did print yours out for my upcoming upgrade... Thanks for the change. You might also put it on thingiverse?

Uploaded here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3733759

mariusvw avatar Jul 07 '19 10:07 mariusvw

@akukan looks like you did in fact merge that change in, we can probably zap this issue!

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draeath avatar Dec 02 '19 23:12 draeath

@draeath, @akukan Indeed look like it has been added... Just wondering, are you guys moving away from OpenSCAD?

Asking this because I see that the SCAD files are not matching with the current STL versions or the SCAD file is completely removed.

mariusvw avatar Dec 03 '19 06:12 mariusvw