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Different types of local compactness, a missing example

Open Moniker1998 opened this issue 1 year ago • 9 comments

Hi, I've noticed that there is no space or theorem that would give an example or counter-example to the following.

A space that's weakly locally compact, not locally compact and not locally relatively compact.

Perhaps all is needed to fill in some properties of another space

[https://topology.pi-base.org/spaces?q=Weakly+Locally+Compact+%2B+not+locally+compact+%2B+not+locally+relatively+compact](See the search result on pi-base)

Moniker1998 avatar Mar 27 '24 19:03 Moniker1998

I'd look at these spaces:

https://topology.pi-base.org/spaces?q=Weakly+Locally+Compact%2B%7ELocally+Relatively+Compact

Of those, we have four where it's unknown if the space is locally compact or not:

  • S42 Right Ray Topology on the Reals
  • S44 Nested interval topology
  • S46 Interlocking interval topology
  • S49 Divisor topology

StevenClontz avatar Mar 27 '24 20:03 StevenClontz

Seems like weak local compactness is closed under disjoint union (wikipedia provides example of disjoint union of one-point compactification of Q and a particular point topology on infinite set)/ So all we need to do is take disjoint union of a space thats weakly locally compact but not locally compact, and a space thats weakly locally compact but not locally relatively compact.

Moniker1998 avatar Mar 27 '24 20:03 Moniker1998

Nonetheless, maybe it would be nice to have a connected example on pi-base instead.

Moniker1998 avatar Mar 27 '24 20:03 Moniker1998

S42 Right Ray Topology on the Reals

  1. Weakly locally compact: If x is a point then [x-1, inf) is a compact neighbourhood of x
  2. Not locally relatively compact: A closed set with non-empty interior is the whole space which is not compact That is, there is no closed compact neighbourhood
  3. Locally compact: For x we can take sets [y, inf) with y < x as a neighbourhood basis of compact sets.

Moniker1998 avatar Mar 27 '24 20:03 Moniker1998

S44 Nested interval topology

Seems to me it's Alexandrov, hence locally compact.

prabau avatar Mar 27 '24 20:03 prabau

S46 Interlocking interval topology seems to be Alexandrov too

Moniker1998 avatar Mar 27 '24 20:03 Moniker1998

And same for S49 Divisor topology.

I agree it would be nice to have a connected example. Could be worth a question on mathse.

prabau avatar Mar 27 '24 20:03 prabau

Speaking of variants of locally compact, we currently have the following. At each point:

  • (P23) Weakly locally compact (WLC): there is a compact nbhd
  • (P130) Locally compact (LC) = local base of compact nbhds.
  • (P24) Locally relatively compact (LRC) = local base of nbhds with compact closure which is equivalent to the alias "Weakly locally closed-and-compact" (WLCC) = there is a closed compact nbhd

One property stronger than the other ones:

  • "Locally closed-and-compact" = local base of closed compact nbhds.

That's in fact equivalent to [WLC + regular], and we already have theorems saying that implies the other ones. Would it be useful to introduce a name/property for that combination? I am ok with not having a separate property for this, but once in a while I have to remind myself of that equivalence. Do you guys have an opinion?

prabau avatar Mar 27 '24 21:03 prabau

My opinion is that I'm perfectly fine with not having the fourth definition of locally compact space, since as you say it can be described as weakly locally compact regular space.

Moniker1998 avatar Mar 30 '24 19:03 Moniker1998