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Variations on the Frechet-Urysohn property

Open prabau opened this issue 2 years ago • 2 comments

There are a few subtly different strengthenings of the Frechet-Urysohn property (P80) that would be interesting to have in pi-base. In particular:

  • strictly Frechet (Gerlits & Nagy 1982: https://doi.org/10.1016/0166-8641(82)90065-7)
  • strongly Frechet (Siwiec 1971: https://doi.org/10.1016/0016-660X(71)90120-6)

The implications are: first countable ==> strictly Frechet ==> strongly Frechet ==> Frechet-Urysohn.

Other references:

  • https://mathoverflow.net/questions/264857
  • https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/756159
  • [G] Gruenhage: http://webhome.auburn.edu/~gruengf/preprints/frechprodd.pdf
  • [ABD] Aurichi, Bella, Dias 2016: https://arxiv.org/abs/1603.09715

It says on page 2 of [G] that strongly Frechet is the same as $\alpha_4$-FU (= $\alpha_4$ + Frechet-Urysohn). Mentions various connections with $\alpha_i$ properties, and various other names. See also paragraph preceding Theorem 2.17 in [ABD].

Some example spaces to illustrate:

  • Frechet, not strongly Frechet: quotient space of $\mathbb R$ with $\mathbb N$ identified to a point
  • Frechet, not strongly Frechet: countable sequential fan $S_\omega$
  • strongly Frechet, not strictly Frechet: [ABD] Example 2.10 and Fact 2.16.
  • strictly Frechet, not first countable: ?

It seems that even the often mentioned first two are not in pi-base.

prabau avatar Jun 12 '23 04:06 prabau

Just dropping a related comment here. It appears that the definition of "strong Fréchet-Urysohn" appearing in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9chet%E2%80%93Urysohn_space is actually "strictly" since it doesn't specify that the sequence of the A_n doesn't have to be descending.

ccaruvana avatar Aug 03 '24 20:08 ccaruvana

Good observation. That does not surprise me. That section in wikipedia was added by editor Mgkrupa, without any source whatsoever. That has to be taken with a grain of salt, and someone will have to eventually fix this in wikipedia.

prabau avatar Aug 03 '24 22:08 prabau