Paul Moore

Some questions around the UI. How would something like `pip install requests --dependency-groups xxx` work? Is the flag intended to only be valid for installing from source? What about `pip...

I think the problem for me was that it wasn't clear that you're proposing that `--dependency-groups` works the same way as `--requirement`. In particular, in the `pip install` help, we...

> We can discuss usages in which the path to pyproject.toml is given explicitly. Strong -1 on me for allowing anything but "read dependency groups from `pyproject.toml` in the current...

> There is no standard way to request groups in the package specifier. In hindsight, this probably should have been considered in the PEP I believe this was deliberate, and...

Fair enough. I don't think we should change the syntax we've agreed on just to match uv[^1], and I think there's been long enough for anyone with objections to raise...

The fact that `pip wheel` exists makes this a grey area - in the sense that if there were no `pip wheel`, it would be obvious (to me, at least)...

OK. I guess it depends on how you look at the tools. I interact with pip as an end user. I use it to install, to uninstall/upgrade, sometimes to generate...

> I will say one of most common complaints I see amongst people who are new to Python (either new to programming in general, or new to Python but used...

`pip install -e` is only supported for setuptools (PEP 517 does not support editable installs) so it's not surprising that the `pip install -e` case fails. However, the `pip install...

See https://github.com/pypa/pep517/issues/10 - agreed, hiding the traceback detail is not ideal.