Slide not doing anything

[Florberger]

Hi

I'm new to this (GIT) so please tell me if I don't follow the practices/etiquette.

I've been trying to use Strava Slide to update trails in Open Street Map - there is a Slide plugin on this page: https://strava.github.io/iD/#background=Bing&id=w54292996&map=17.60/11.74480/57.71357, that should be possible to use to update OSM - when using it, nothing happens though.

I've also tried the demo: https://labs.strava.com/slide/demo.html#16/-122.54277/38.05392, though there's no heat data being shown and when trying anyway, you get a server error message.

Is Slide "down" or is the problem on my side?

[paulmach]

yeah, everything is kind of broken ever since strava updated the heatmap. I will try to contact some people I still know there to see if they are interested in maintain it.

[EwenH]

@Florberger, what you wrote is exactly whats required with explanation and URL's.

Paul, this has had significant impact on a lot of OSM editors on both verifying tracks and aligning. Please ask your friends at Strava however is there anyway we can surgically remove the code base off Strava and just consume the end point or better still, embed itstraight into the osm Id editor?

[Florberger]

@EwenH: Thanks for the feedback : )

@paulmach: Thanks for the reply - it's an awesome functionality you've created, it would be sad to see it disappear. Thanks for your great work!

[valleyofdawn]

This tool has revolutionized single-track OSM coverage in my area. Would be such a shame to see it go. Please let us know if we can do anything to see it rejuvenated. Petition Strava? Fork it somewhere else? Anything really.

[pdxvr]

If we can't get it to slide due to some reason or other, just having the heatmap as a background layer would make a huge difference.

[solitone]

That would be a fantastic tool! A JOSM plugin doing such thing would be extremely useful.

[nyeates]

Agreed that the heatmaps and slide REVOLUTIONIZED single-track trail mapping on OSM.

Likely it contributed to 1000s of miles of new / improved mapped trails. I updated two hundred alone and multiply that by hundreds more and you get thousands of miles of added trails.

This means less people getting lost - search and rescue use OSM trail maps (I saw them in a command center). It has a HUGE impact.

There are supposed to be workaround ways to get Strava heatmaps to load in things like "JOSM" or "Go Map!!". A cleaner officially-supported way to get to heatmaps for enthusiasts would be nice.

I think heatmaps access in apps currently involves getting a dev token from Strava and utilizing that when loading it into a third party editor. I couldn't get it to work. It is because Strava now requires you to LOGIN to get at zoomed-in anonymous heatmaps data. All of this was likely because of hidden military-bases being shown on maps via unknowing soldiers running laps around their bases. Made news a year or two back and Strava had to reign back heatmaps access. Heatmaps are still around though and appears to continue to be updated.

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That would be a fantastic tool! A JOSM plugin doing such thing would be extremely useful.

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[solitone]

I regularly use high resolution Strava Heatmap data in JOSM. All I need are the cookies that my browser gets from the Strava server, and set the imagery URL accordingly, like this:

tms[3,15]:https://heatmap-external-{switch:a,b,c}.strava.com/tiles-auth/run/bluered/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?Key-Pair-Id=<MY_KEY_PAIR_ID_COOKIE_VALUE>&Policy=<MY_POLICY_COOKIE_VALUE>&Signature=<MY_SIGNATURE_COOKIE_VALUE>

I edit ways manually though, while this Slide utility would be a tremendous accelerator!

[nyeates]

I dislike JOSM. I see why it's liked by some but I'm not a super power user. Mostly I don't get to edits unless I do them in the field. I'll record GPS and then never get to it. Love the app 'Go Map!!' but I think it's unsupported now. It does custom tile layers but no idea how to bring cookies. Is there an explain anywhere on how to at least use the cookies and set it up in JOSM? I couldn't figure it out last time

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 1:00 PM solitone [email protected] wrote:

I regularly use high resolution Strava Heatmap data in JOSM. All I need are the cookies that my browser gets from the Strava server, and set the imagery URL accordingly, like this:

tms[3,15]:https://heatmap-external-{switch:a,b,c}. strava.com/tiles-auth/run/bluered/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?Key-Pair-Id= http://strava.com/tiles-auth/run/bluered/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png?Key-Pair-Id=<MY_KEY_PAIR_ID_COOKIE_VALUE>&Policy=<MY_POLICY_COOKIE_VALUE>&Signature=<MY_SIGNATURE_COOKIE_VALUE>

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[pdxvr]

I am a power user but I can't stand JOSM. Even if I took the time to add the hi res heat map to any editor view, the real value in this was the actual slide editor tool. I corrected likely over 1000 miles of trails and roads just in my region.

[solitone]

Yes, the Slide tool would be really fantastic! Unfortunately I didn't know it and never tried it when was working.

@nyeates As for hi-res Strava imagery in JOSM, follow instruction steps 1-4 here: https://github.com/solitone/josm_strava_cookies

Then you should manually edit the imagery URL, changing it to something like: tms[3,15]:https://heatmap-external-{switch:a,b,c}.strava.com/tiles-auth/run/bluered/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?Key-Pair-Id=<YOUR_KEY_PAIR_ID_COOKIE_VALUE>&Policy=<YOUR_POLICY_COOKIE_VALUE>&Signature=<YOUR_SIGNATURE_COOKIE_VALUE>

<YOUR_KEY_PAIR_ID_COOKIE_VALUE>, <YOUR_POLICY_COOKIE_VALUE>, and <YOUR_SIGNATURE_COOKIE_VALUE> are the values of the following 3 Strava cookies: CloudFront-Key-Pair-Id, CloudFront-Policy, and CloudFront-Signature. How to get them depends on the browser you use.

If you use Safari on macOS you could try the script that I wrote, following all those instruction points.

[RobJN]

Permission to continue using Strava Heatmap in OSM reconfirmed. There had been some doubt inthe OSM community after this tool stopped working.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-November/083564.html

Also there is a suggestion that the tool may be working again now. I've not yet tested.

[rene78]

yeah, everything is kind of broken ever since strava updated the heatmap. I will try to contact some people I still know there to see if they are interested in maintain it.

Kudos to @paulmach ! Still sad that Slide is not working anymore. One of the most useful little helpers that I used for OSM mapping 👍

[endolith]

@pdxvr

If we can't get it to slide due to some reason or other, just having the heatmap as a background layer would make a huge difference.

You can:

1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/josm-strava-heatmap/

2. Make sure you are logged in to Strava and have entered a location in your settings https://www.strava.com/settings/profile

3. https://www.strava.com/heatmap

4. 

5. 

Can Slide be resurrected on another site? I was considering making something like it but someone pointed out this existing project to me.