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Multi-Protocol Module doesn't work with FrSky Horus X10S Express and X12S

Open AlphaCharlyX opened this issue 3 years ago • 38 comments

General information OpenTX version 2.3.14 or 1e09791) Hardware Frsky X10S Express FW: opentx-x10express

Hardware Frsky Taranis X-Lite Pro

OpenTX Companion 2.3.14 on Win10

Hello, I have the problem, that my new MultiProtocol-Module JP4IN1-SE doesn't work with my FrSky X10S Express and OpenTX version 2.3.14.

As you can see on the picture on the radio and opentx the status of the Multimodule is "No Multi-Telemetry detected". Binding models and Flashing the Multimodule is so impossible.

On my Taranis X9d and on my X-lite Pro with JR-Adapter the Multimodule works perfectly (binding models and flashing the module with the newest firmware is no problem here.

On the Multimodule itself is the newest Firmware 1.3.3.0 successfully installed.

PXL_20210920_160334841

I am pretty sure that I have the right firmware on the Multimodule because the same module works - as mentioned - perfectly on my FrSky X-lite Pro and on my Taranis X9d 2019. This is the back of my multimodule.

back mpm

Thanks for your project and your help.

Greetings Alpha

AlphaCharlyX avatar Sep 25 '21 14:09 AlphaCharlyX

This is a known issue on the Horus X10S and not specific to the Jumper 4in1 but all multi modules. A wire needs to be soldered to solve the issue.

pascallanger avatar Sep 25 '21 17:09 pascallanger

Solder a wire as shown in red: 134775374-470821cb-8572-48ac-a266-2ca1f9f9339a

pascallanger avatar Sep 25 '21 17:09 pascallanger

Hello Pascall! Thank you very much, for your great help. I did the soldering as you shown in the picture above. Now it is working perfectly in my X10s Express.

Does this modification influence the function in my other radios? I haven't tested yet the soldered MPM in my X-lite Pro and X9d.

Greetings Alpha

AlphaCharlyX avatar Sep 26 '21 11:09 AlphaCharlyX

It shouldn't affect anything on the other radios.

pascallanger avatar Sep 26 '21 11:09 pascallanger

Hello

I have the same problem with my Frsky Taranis X9 Lite S and Irange iRX4 lite module. Could it be a fundamental problem for all access transmitters?

Many thanks and kind regards

Enzo

enzo-molinari avatar Oct 01 '21 13:10 enzo-molinari

May be... I don't know...

pascallanger avatar Oct 01 '21 17:10 pascallanger

Are somewhere pictures how to solder the IRangeX4 modules?

AlphaCharlyX avatar Oct 01 '21 18:10 AlphaCharlyX

It should be pretty similar. If you can't find out post a closeup picture of the PCB and I'll indicate where the wire needs to be soldered.

pascallanger avatar Oct 01 '21 18:10 pascallanger

IMG_20211001_214508

enzo-molinari avatar Oct 01 '21 19:10 enzo-molinari

Hello Pascall, thank you! Herr is a picture of the back of my IRangeX4 Module.

PXL_20211002_063146627

AlphaCharlyX avatar Oct 02 '21 06:10 AlphaCharlyX

@AlphaCharlyX Solder a wire as indicated by the red line: irangex4in1

pascallanger avatar Oct 02 '21 08:10 pascallanger

@enzo-molinari Solder a wire as indicated by the red line: irangex4in1_small

pascallanger avatar Oct 02 '21 08:10 pascallanger

Thank you very much. As soon as I have soldered and tested it I will give feedback. With kind regards Enzo

enzo-molinari avatar Oct 02 '21 12:10 enzo-molinari

Everything works except flashing the Multiprotokoll-Modul through the X10S Express. The radio always shows "Sync error". With the other radios flashing the Modul is no Problem.

AlphaCharlyX avatar Oct 02 '21 18:10 AlphaCharlyX

@AlphaCharlyX if the telemetry works fine (the module version is displayed under the protocol), then the flashing problem is an opentx issue.

pascallanger avatar Oct 02 '21 18:10 pascallanger

Hello Pascal

I just found out that the MPM works on my X9 Lite S and my x10s Express without soldering a bridge. You only have to switch off the internal module. This means that only one module can be in operation at a time. Either the internal or the external. Many thanks and kind regards

Enzo

enzo-molinari avatar Oct 04 '21 17:10 enzo-molinari

Hello Pascal

I just found out that the MPM works on my X9 Lite S and my x10s Express without soldering a bridge. You only have to switch off the internal module. This means that only one module can be in operation at a time. Either the internal or the external. Many thanks and kind regards

Enzo

In my case and with my X10s Express, switching off the internal modul did´t solve the problem.

AlphaCharlyX avatar Oct 05 '21 04:10 AlphaCharlyX

@AlphaCharlyX it would be really appreciated if you could add the here proposed fixes and information to the DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module documentation. Then the issue can be closed.

OpenUAS avatar Oct 20 '21 13:10 OpenUAS

Hallo Pascal , I saw the problems of charlyX and can tell that i have the same Board. Making the soldering didn't solve the Problem, Not to see the module. I can't get communikation with my horus x12s. When i Flash the Firmware with the flasher All is going well, flasher is showing the New firmware but i can't see the Modul in opentx as external Modul. Internal Modul is off. The Board is exactly the same like seeing in the comment @alphacharlyx boardbild

wollenagold avatar Feb 01 '22 14:02 wollenagold

Is the 10S running the Opentx Version from the FrSky website? If yes, frsky removed support for third-party modules in their own version. Official version loaded via the Companion should show the module as option.

HazzaHFPV avatar Feb 01 '22 15:02 HazzaHFPV

Hello together, now it's running, i think the problem was sitting in front of the PC ;-). Because loading the 2.3.14 with companion i forgot to mark the position "external Modul with unsupported Firmwares" After reloading the 2.3.14 with this option all is working well and i could connect my different RX'es with SFHSS. But the External Modul isn't visible when looking in the Groundsettings of OpenTX. Telemetrie with my FrSky-RX in my testmodel is also running so that's ok for me. Wish you all a good time. Stay without Corona and have good flying times.

wollenagold avatar Feb 06 '22 15:02 wollenagold

Hello. I have a horus x12s with a irange irx4+ module. In horus, the firmware is opentx 2.3.15, in module 1.3.3.14 (the latest). The wire is soldered as shown in the figure above in the discussions, but still writes that the module is not connected. What could be the reason? IMG_20220828_150124 IMG_20220828_150102 This is the situation with two irx4+ modules.

yura869 avatar Aug 28 '22 11:08 yura869

This is the situation with two irx4+ modules. IMG_20220828_150421

yura869 avatar Aug 28 '22 11:08 yura869

I think your soldering is not good. It should be a shining and straight connection. Practise first a few times on another piece and then try it again. Then we will see.

AlphaCharlyX avatar Sep 27 '22 04:09 AlphaCharlyX

Hey, i have the same issue as some others in this thread. I attached the setting of my Horus x10s. The Module is a Irangex plus with the yellow rotary switch. I soldered the two pins. But didn´t change anything. I have no idea what can i do to get a solution.

This module worked fine for me till I updated the internal IXJT Module. Since I updated there is no way to get it work.

What i already tried to get it back to run: -flash different versions of the firmware version of the 4in1 module. -Did flash two times the latest OTX firmware via Companion. -Soldered the two pins as shown in this thread.

It would be great if anyone of you had an idea what can i try to get the module back to work on my horus x10s.

IMG_20221002_211704

IMG_20221002_211723

Mars2588 avatar Oct 02 '22 19:10 Mars2588

Even if the internal module is off?

pascallanger avatar Oct 02 '22 19:10 pascallanger

The internal module is off. Or is there a other way to turn it off. Because the attached picture show exactly a turned off internal modul!

Mars2588 avatar Oct 02 '22 19:10 Mars2588

For connecting the two Pins in the irangex Board i used a self bondering wire. This one ist quiet thin. I can try to solder a thicker one and try again. Or isn't that a problem. Any other ideas?

Mars2588 avatar Oct 02 '22 20:10 Mars2588

I changed the soldered cable didn't Change anything. The Modul itself seems to Work because with a radiomaster there isn't a Problem. Did anybody of you have an Idea what can i do that the horus x10s works with the multimodule?

Mars2588 avatar Oct 03 '22 18:10 Mars2588

Are you sure it's an official OpenTX 2.3.15 version that you used? The date is kind of weird, October 2nd 2022? Official release was from 2022-04-22, therefore 2022-10-02 is weird. If you used binary from FrSky itself, please try with official version from open-tx.org (download and install Companion, configure the radio settings to reflect your radio and download the firmware, then flash the radio).

alm-nl avatar Oct 07 '22 18:10 alm-nl