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A new icon for telegrand

Open germe-deb opened this issue 2 years ago • 17 comments

Hello everyone! I feel that the actual icon does not fit very well on the desktop with other apps because:

  • I can't recognize well what is that (my friends think that is a nose)
  • it don't appears to be a telegram client
  • There is no color. Normally the apps are asociated to a specific color
  • The paper airplanes don't fly with that sharp... xd
  • Is strange to see a no-color app surrounded by full color apps

So, to solve that problem, I made an icon that is much more familiar to the existing telegram users.

Captura de pantalla de 2021-11-29 18-54-15

here is the SVG telegrand.svg.gz

Hope you accept it

Thanks for all of your work!

germe-deb avatar Nov 29 '21 22:11 germe-deb

Putting icons into a shapes (like squares or circles) tends to make them harder to distinguish from each other, and is considered a design error from an accessibility POV. Because of that, I'm don't think this is an improvement.

Kekun avatar Nov 30 '21 09:11 Kekun

tends to make them harder to distinguish from each other

That doesn't apply when we're talking about one icon. I agree the new one looks a lot more like Telegram. I wonder if it should be circle though - given the Telegram one is circlular.

alice-mkh avatar Nov 30 '21 10:11 alice-mkh

I made a circle version. @Exalm

Captura de pantalla de 2021-11-30 15-17-10 here is the svg: telegrand_circle.svg.gz

germe-deb avatar Nov 30 '21 18:11 germe-deb

First of all, thanks @germe-deb for the interest on this! I totally see your points and I agree with most of them, most specifically about the color: Telegram clients are already recognized by their official logo, so there's already an association of the iconic blue color and ofc the paper plane. So having an icon like that will surely make it more look like a Telegram client.

Honestly I really like the circular version and it indeed fixes most of the problems with the actual icon. The only concern is that having an icon with a shape like that might seem a bit weird compared to other GNOME apps, but... actually lately I'm seeing more and more apps having a similar concept for their icons (App Icon Preview, Contrast, Emblem, Commit, Metadata Cleaner) and IMHO they look all really great, so I don't think it's a problem.

So... overall I think it's a really great icon and I might want to merge that, but for now I'd like to collect a bit more opinion on this.

melix99 avatar Nov 30 '21 21:11 melix99

i have fixed a very small problems with the circle icon (illumination, sizes) and here is the updated version:

Captura de pantalla de 2021-11-30 20-22-16

telegrand_circle.svg.gz

germe-deb avatar Nov 30 '21 23:11 germe-deb

So in general we recommend using unique shapes, as this makes icons easier to distinguish and just more interesting overall. That's not a hard rule of course, and it's fine for some apps to have buttonized icons though if it makes sense.

In this particular case it might make sense to keep it buttonized, since you're otherwise left with just a white/light gray paper plane icon. No strong opinion on square vs. circle as long as they're using the usual icon grid shapes :)

Also, I'd maybe try dropping the shadow on the plane, not sure it's needed.

bertob avatar Dec 01 '21 08:12 bertob

@melix99 @bertob @germe-deb @Exalm What do you say to this version? telegrand256

igor-dyatlov avatar Dec 01 '21 19:12 igor-dyatlov

What do you say to this version?

I don't like it... It is not adwaita, and looks very generic

i have talked with melix on the telegrand tg chat about the icon, he made a small modifications:

Screenshot from 2021-12-01 02-04-46

I personally think that this is good.

germe-deb avatar Dec 01 '21 19:12 germe-deb

That doesn't apply when we're talking about one icon. I agree the new one looks a lot more like Telegram. I wonder if it should be circle though - given the Telegram one is circlular.

@Exalm Telegram downloaded from https://telegram.org/android (non-gapps versions) is a square IMG_20211204_022342

DeicPro avatar Dec 04 '21 01:12 DeicPro

We could also preserve the unique color while making it blue:

Capture d’écran de 2021-12-04 09-02-24

Granted, my implementationt looks a bit bland.

Kekun avatar Dec 04 '21 08:12 Kekun

There are discussions about other ideas and suggestions in #64 and in the group chat as well.

rodrigost23 avatar Dec 04 '21 08:12 rodrigost23

@Exalm Telegram downloaded from https://telegram.org/android (non-gapps versions) is a square !

That's an "adaptive icon" - its shape depends on what your OEM decided. By default they are all square, Pixel makes them all circles etc. But that's an Android thing. Everywhere else - incl on Linux and also on iOS which is all about rounded squares - Telegram is a circle.

alice-mkh avatar Dec 04 '21 11:12 alice-mkh

What do you say to this version?

I don't like it... It is not adwaita, and looks very generic

i have talked with melix on the telegrand tg chat about the icon, he made a small modifications:

Screenshot from 2021-12-01 02-04-46

I personally think that this is good.

The basis of the icon is a standard for GNOME applications. Take a look at the Mousai and GNOME Clocks icons

igor-dyatlov avatar Dec 04 '21 16:12 igor-dyatlov

Well, I guess some more iteration is needed :p

While I agree that the metaphor is maybe not as strong and the icon is somewhat washed out, I'm opposed to slapping it on a bedsheet, not to mention that it doesn't make it distinct enough from Telegram.

jannuary avatar Dec 13 '21 03:12 jannuary

not to mention that it doesn't make it distinct enough from Telegram

True, but is that really a bad thing? It would make the app more recognizable as a Telegram client.

melix99 avatar Dec 13 '21 21:12 melix99

True, but is that really a bad thing? It would make the app more recognizable as a Telegram client.

IMHO yes. Telegrand is a client for Telegram, but Telegrand is not Telegram. We want to hint that it's compatible/interchangeable with Telegram while still being distinct.

jannuary avatar Dec 14 '21 04:12 jannuary

Thing that will better differentiate the current icon is using a simple line of folding when something is folded. Compare Maps icon to this one & you'll see the difference.

Maybe a darker shade of white can be used for the text background part, and than make text part the same color as normal white widely used for the current icon.

fiftydinar avatar May 19 '23 15:05 fiftydinar