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addr:street could also refer to official_name on highway=*
item 2060 class 19 code https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/blob/master/analysers/analyser_osmosis_relation_associatedStreet.py#L651 the conventions in Switzerland put the "ground" name in name=* and the official name in offiial_name=* in case of discrepancy between the ground and the state opendata the analysis reports that addr:street has a street name (the official one) which was not found. it would be nice if the analysis also checked official_name to avoid a false positive for every street with a sign not exactly identical to its official name
A similar scenario is under discussion in NL, where it is proposed that motorways with an official name that is no-where indicated except in state documents (for example because a fuel station along a motorway must legally have an address) while everyone refers to the motorway by its ref, would be tagged with only official_name. So I would support this.
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=870317
The tagging proposal to tag streets that only carry a name on paper (without any indication that they really have a name; everyone (including street signs) only refer to the ref), as official_name=* + noname=yes, has been accepted and is also documented for the Dutch community. Also slowly issues start to pop up, ex: https://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/issue/248a0ee0-aec0-8430-0758-a76d188eb96e
@frodrigo I'm not sure if your reply means you prefer not to fix it or whether you'd accept a patch adding official_name? (I won't add alt_name and such; I can't think of good reasons why name and official_name wouldn't cover all addresses)
My issue with that is making data usage more complicated to have to join the addr:street with may think.
Street name derived from road number If a street has a road number, the municipality may choose to derive the street name directly from it, for example, National Highway A3 or Provincial Road N999. Many municipalities have adopted this practice from the Model Regulation Naming and Numbering (Addresses) of the Association of Dutch Municipalities in their street naming policy. Place such street names in official_name=* instead of name=. This ensures that data consumers using name= and ref=* do not duplicate the road number. Also add noname=yes so that it is clear to fellow mappers and editor software that it is not intended to add a name=*. N.B. Because road number and street name are established in different ways, sometimes street name and road number may not match (anymore).
From my local and cultural knowledge I find this weird. But I hope this come from a local community consensus.
Thank you! It's a very easy patch. I verified the results with netherlands_zuid_holland
I see no significant changes in the results. Can you conf it is ok?
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/issues/open?item=2060&class=19&country=nether%2a
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/issues/graph.png?item=2060&class=19&country=france*&start_date=2022-09 http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/issues/graph.png?item=2060&class=19&country=netherland*&start_date=2022-09
Yeah, it's correct. It's a recent change by the Dutch community so not all highways are updated yet. Also, the majority of issues found is of course from residential areas (where a single apartment complex without nearby street can make up 100 reported addresses, in contrast to "numbered roads" which have maybe a single fuel station with address every 10 km). So I would consider this as fixed.
(p.s. I can't close this issue as fixed as I'm not the topic starter, so if you agree with me, please close it)