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Encourage the use of secondary wikidata tags

Open kolgza opened this issue 4 years ago • 10 comments

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikidata#Secondary_Wikidata_links

Such tags should include:

  • [ ] operator:wikidata=*
  • [ ] network:wikidata=*
  • [ ] brand:wikidata=* #552
  • [ ] architect:wikidata=*
  • [ ] artist:wikidata=*
  • [x] subject:wikidata=* #533
  • [ ] name:etymology:wikidata=*
  • [x] flag:wikidata=* #218
  • [ ] burried:wikidata=*

kolgza avatar Apr 29 '21 13:04 kolgza

(//edit by @tyrasd: moved content of this comment to top post, so the task list is properly tracked by github)

kolgza avatar Apr 29 '21 13:04 kolgza

#218 adds flag:wikidata.

1ec5 avatar Oct 24 '21 23:10 1ec5

#533 is for subject:wikidata

tyrasd avatar Jul 22 '22 10:07 tyrasd

@tyrasd you mismatched the list entries and the links to the corresponding PRs / issues in the opening post.

riQQ avatar Jul 22 '22 21:07 riQQ

oh, it's fixed now. thanks for the hint :blush:

tyrasd avatar Jul 23 '22 18:07 tyrasd

architect:wikidata and artist:wikidata are quite dubious, as are typically unverifiable by survey and only importable from third-party sources.

matkoniecz avatar Jul 29 '22 13:07 matkoniecz

architect:wikidata and artist:wikidata are quite dubious, as are typically unverifiable by survey and only importable from third-party sources.

It depends. A lot of commercial buildings have a plaque inside the lobby to credit the architectural firm that designed the building.

450 Sutter

Meanwhile, many historic buildings have a plaque outside that mentions the architect along with other facts about the building’s history.

First Unitarian Church

Most of the public art in my city is signed by the artist or has a small plaque with the artist’s name on it, along with other information like the title or the program that funded the artwork.

High Technology

I hope I haven’t run afoul of OSM’s best practices by translating these Instagram user names to the artists’ real names.

artists

1ec5 avatar Jul 31 '22 09:07 1ec5

Yes, some of them have. But vast majority - do not.

matkoniecz avatar Jul 31 '22 18:07 matkoniecz

I think that’s an unreasonable standard for including a field in a preset, especially if it ends up being hidden by default. Few fields would meet this standard for a preset as common as Building, certainly not Name. The photos I posted above disprove your point about the information only being available through imports, and they’re by no means exceptional. Artists have been signing their murals since time immemorial. I think we’re all quite familiar with the desire for visible attribution! If a public sculpture doesn’t have a visible indication of its creator, it’s fine to avoid selecting the field from the dropdown menu.

In any case, the concern you’re raising is broader than this issue, since the Artwork preset already has an Artist field and the Building preset already has an Architect field. As long as those fields exist, their associated Wikidata fields shouldn’t be subject to additional scrutiny about verifiability.

1ec5 avatar Jul 31 '22 20:07 1ec5

if it ends up being hidden by default

In such case it would be fine, I guess

matkoniecz avatar Jul 31 '22 20:07 matkoniecz

model:wikidata

GreenAloe avatar Feb 21 '23 16:02 GreenAloe