id-tagging-schema icon indicating copy to clipboard operation
id-tagging-schema copied to clipboard

Make `highway=living_street` unsearchable in Bulgaria

Open Dimitar5555 opened this issue 1 year ago β€’ 3 comments

In Bulgaria very few streets can be tagged with highway=living_street (probably less than five). The problem is that the preset's label is literally translated to "Residential Road" which confuses mappers, because highway=residential has the same translation.

Is it possible to make highway=living_street unsearchable only in Bulgaria?

Dimitar5555 avatar Oct 27 '24 10:10 Dimitar5555

I think the quickest and first thing we should do is to update the translation. Could you have a look at that? There are docs on how it works in this repository.

tordans avatar Oct 27 '24 11:10 tordans

highway=residential is translated as "Π£Π»ΠΈΡ†Π°" ("Street")

highway=living_street is translated as "Π£Π»ΠΈΡ†Π° Π² ΠΆΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡ‰Π½Π° Π·ΠΎΠ½Π°" ("Street in Residential zone", where residential zone is supposed to have a special meaning but it also means regular residential zone).

landuse=residential is translated as "Π–ΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡ‰Π½Π° Π·ΠΎΠ½Π°" ("Residential zone") which could be use for regular residential zone, as well as "residential zone with living streets".

Also see two of the many changesets where mappers tag highway=residential streets as living streets even when they arent. :

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/158401601 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/158400569

This is why I think that the best solution is to hide the preset.

Dimitar5555 avatar Oct 27 '24 12:10 Dimitar5555

I think hide highway=living_street is not a good idea. ΠΆΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡ‰Π½Π° Π·ΠΎΠ½Π° (residential area zone) is regular road sign in Bulgaria. 256px-Bulgaria_road_sign_Π”15 svg highway=residential could be translated as zhilishtna ulitsa, highway=living_street could be zhilishtna zona - only for ways, landuse=residential could be also zhilishtna zona - only for nodes and areas.

Oivo35 avatar Oct 27 '24 14:10 Oivo35

"Street in Residential zone"

maybe turn it into

"Street in Residential zone defined by a special sign"

or similar?

matkoniecz avatar Nov 01 '24 20:11 matkoniecz

I think hide highway=living_street is not a good idea. ΠΆΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡ‰Π½Π° Π·ΠΎΠ½Π° (residential area zone) is regular road sign in Bulgaria.

There is a single living street in the whole country. Every other instance of highway=living_street is incorrect.

"Street in Residential zone"

maybe turn it into

"Street in Residential zone defined by a special sign"

or similar?

I've just changed it to Π£Π»ΠΈΡ†Π° Π² ΠΆΠΈΠ»ΠΈΡ‰Π½Π° Π·ΠΎΠ½Π° (ΠΎΠ±ΠΎΠ·Π½Π°Ρ‡Π΅Π½Π° със ΠΏΡŠΡ‚Π΅Π½ Π·Π½Π°ΠΊ Π”15) (Street in a residential area (signposted with road sign D15)) although I'm not sure if it will help.

Dimitar5555 avatar Nov 02 '24 09:11 Dimitar5555

There is a single living street in the whole country.

which one is actually existing?

matkoniecz avatar Nov 02 '24 09:11 matkoniecz

Tsar Ivan Shishman in Sofia, starting from https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/683840371 and going in NE direction (Gmaps for reference, there is no other street level imagery that shows it, the signs were placed this year).

Dimitar5555 avatar Nov 02 '24 09:11 Dimitar5555

Given there seems to be an official sign https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/issues/1367#issuecomment-2440035573 I think the way to go is to find a better translation.

I suggest to keep this issue open until someone edits the translations so you can use it to discuss better wordings.

tordans avatar Nov 03 '24 04:11 tordans