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Are journal entries searchable through Google Scholar?

Open rickyjeffrey opened this issue 9 years ago • 26 comments

Hi

I love the site.

Are journal entries searchable through Google Scholar? In the same way articles in traditional academic journals will show up in Google Scholar searches. If not, is this something you're hoping to establish in the near future?

Thanks Ricky

rickyjeffrey avatar Sep 17 '15 10:09 rickyjeffrey

Hi @rickyjeffrey, thanks for the feedback! As far as I'm aware we're not currently indexed by Google Scholar. I know that some services (such as Altmetric) have begun tracking references to us but ultimately I expect this will happen if Google Scholar start ingesting the Zenodo records (where we get our DOIs from).

@lnielsen - do you know if Google Scholar indexes Zenodo?

arfon avatar Dec 15 '15 11:12 arfon

Zenodo is unfortunately only being selectively indexed by Google Scholar (1.5k out of 30k records), and we haven't found a way yet to get the rest in yet.

lnielsen avatar Dec 15 '15 23:12 lnielsen

Zenodo is unfortunately only being selectively indexed by Google Scholar (1.5k out of 30k records), and we haven't found a way yet to get the rest in yet.

Do you know what logic is being applied here? Is this something worth reaching out to the Google folks about?

arfon avatar Dec 16 '15 00:12 arfon

Thank you for this post, I stumbled upon it when searching for zenodo and tracking of citations, and it is exactly what I'm looking for.

@lnielsen would you know what selection criteria Google Scholar is using to to get Zenodo records into Google Scholar? And is there a way to track if the number of ingested Zenodo records in Google Scholar has increased over time?

Thank you!

kettner avatar Mar 16 '16 23:03 kettner

Google has some rules here: https://scholar.google.co.uk/intl/en/scholar/inclusion.html#indexing

alexpacini avatar Feb 05 '17 14:02 alexpacini

We're in contact with Google regarding solving the issue.

lnielsen avatar Feb 05 '17 15:02 lnielsen

If the brief ideas can be searchable through Google Scholar, that will be a good thing to spread the idea itself.

Maxiaojian66 avatar Feb 21 '17 13:02 Maxiaojian66

@lnielsen could you please inform when there will be an outcome of your checking with GS?

ikashnitsky avatar Mar 27 '17 08:03 ikashnitsky

Hi, any updates on this?

ljvmiranda921 avatar Oct 03 '17 02:10 ljvmiranda921

Yes, we need to change the entire URL structure on Zenodo which is a very big change, hence it's going to take some time to fix. Google Scholar only wants to index text-based content which is an issue when dealing with mixed-content repository like Zenodo. GS requires that the content is split out by URL, and unfortunately cannot do this via e.g. meta-tags or similar. Also, we need a complete index update on GS which happens every 6 months, so this is likely going to take some time before being fully resolved.

lnielsen avatar Oct 11 '17 06:10 lnielsen

Hi there, are there any updates or new developments on this issue?

christofs avatar Jul 09 '18 15:07 christofs

Any more updates @lnielsen ?

yaxu avatar Mar 13 '19 20:03 yaxu

Is there an update about getting Google Scholar to track Zenodo DOI? I mean my Zenodo DOIs don't appear on Google Scholar.

tashrifbillah avatar Mar 29 '19 03:03 tashrifbillah

any updates or new developments on this issue?

amaatouq avatar May 23 '19 12:05 amaatouq

Hello, also wondering if there were any updates on this issue. Love Zenodo but it would be great if at least even the text-based entries could be consistently crawled by Google Scholar.

interactionable avatar Sep 01 '19 00:09 interactionable

Any updates on this? I have created a repository with Zenodo and I am interested in scholar google indexing the papers we upload there with a Zenodo DOI. Thanks in advance

averger1 avatar Jan 08 '20 16:01 averger1

Not sure if I get your question right but I moved away from scholar google to get the number of citations per publication. I have talked several times with people from google but they keep indicated they are not allowed given the contracts they have with the various publishers, to let people mine the number of citations. Instead I'm using now Academia Microsoft (https://academic.microsoft.com/home). Their API makes it possible to get this. Notice they provide two citation numbers CC and ECC, see for more information: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1751157717302900 Hope that helps.

kettner avatar Jan 08 '20 17:01 kettner

Any updated news?

JoyeBright avatar Dec 09 '20 15:12 JoyeBright

Sorry to response you without any news. But I will catch you as soon as I have any update.

Thanks, Xiaojian

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Maxiaojian66 avatar Dec 13 '20 15:12 Maxiaojian66

Yes, we need to change the entire URL structure on Zenodo which is a very big change, hence it's going to take some time to fix. Google Scholar only wants to index text-based content which is an issue when dealing with mixed-content repository like Zenodo. GS requires that the content is split out by URL, and unfortunately cannot do this via e.g. meta-tags or similar. Also, we need a complete index update on GS which happens every 6 months, so this is likely going to take some time before being fully resolved.

I would be grateful for any new info on this issue. From time to time I get questions from colleagues about this and I refer people to this answer by @lnielsen. Is the requirement of content type differentiation in the URL still the barrier for inclusion in Google Scholar?

Thanks!

alberto-martin avatar Jan 27 '22 17:01 alberto-martin

This is my own personal opinion (I'm not longer Zenodo Service Manager).

Yes it is still an issue, and there's no movement in this from Google Scholar nor Zenodo side. Note, that Google Dataset Search have no issues in indexing Zenodo.

Zenodo provides a wealth of possibilities for being indexed. Zenodo register all metadata in DataCite, provides standard compliant harvesting protocols such as XML sitemaps and OAI-PMH for harvesting. Zenodo embeds JSON-LD in all landing pages and include citation metadata in landing pages. All the options provideed are according to well-defined standards. GS is the only indexing service I'm aware of that require splitting content type by URL which is their own completely self-invented way which is not compliant with any open standard.

I suggest you provide your feedback to Google Scholar or alternatively use a different service as suggest higher up in the comments.

lnielsen avatar Feb 14 '22 12:02 lnielsen

Thank you for the confirmation! Yes, GS seems to be quite set in its preferred way to index new documents and doesn't seem to want to move on with the times.

alberto-martin avatar Feb 16 '22 10:02 alberto-martin

Since that is an issue with GS that is not going to be solved.

Can anyone suggest an updated source for tracking Zenodo citations?

Looks like the Microsoft Academic (suggested by @kettner) is a retired service1.

luciorq avatar Aug 03 '22 17:08 luciorq

An alternative service for GS would be: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/

And here is a good place to start if you're interested in their API service: https://api.semanticscholar.org/api-docs/graph

Sorry, I'm a bit swamped so I keep it short but hope the above helps

kettner avatar Aug 05 '22 00:08 kettner

This journal is known as a container to fatcat (and therefore Internet Archive scholar), thanks to Wikidata: https://fatcat.wiki/container/aps3atbzpvby3bwxv7mbfy23vi

If the journal and its articles were on DOAJ, maybe upon next import the individual releases like https://fatcat.wiki/release/skwvgz7oibemhkyb445k2tt4o4 would be linked to the container.

nemobis avatar Aug 05 '22 04:08 nemobis

An alternative service for GS would be: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/ And here is a good place to start if you're interested in their API service.

Sorry, I'm a bit swamped so I keep it short but hope the above helps, Albert

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Can anyone suggest an updated source for tracking Zenodo citations?

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