The same model, with the same prompt has different performance in webui and LM Studio

[AndreyRGW]

Describe the bug

I checked IlyaGusev/saiga_llama3_8b_gguf, in LM Studio I get around 45-49 tokens, while in webui I get only 21 tokens.

LM Studio ^

Webui ^

Is there an existing issue for this?

• [X] I have searched the existing issues

Reproduction

Test same model in LM Studio and then in Webui

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Logs

20:08:32-676508 INFO     Loading "saiga_llama3_8b_gguf"
20:08:33-058723 INFO     llama.cpp weights detected: "models\saiga_llama3_8b_gguf\model-q4_K.gguf"
llama_model_loader: loaded meta data with 23 key-value pairs and 291 tensors from models\saiga_llama3_8b_gguf\model-q4_K.gguf (version GGUF V3 (latest))
llama_model_loader: Dumping metadata keys/values. Note: KV overrides do not apply in this output.
llama_model_loader: - kv   0:                       general.architecture str              = llama
llama_model_loader: - kv   1:                               general.name str              = ..
llama_model_loader: - kv   2:                           llama.vocab_size u32              = 128256
llama_model_loader: - kv   3:                       llama.context_length u32              = 8192
llama_model_loader: - kv   4:                     llama.embedding_length u32              = 4096
llama_model_loader: - kv   5:                          llama.block_count u32              = 32
llama_model_loader: - kv   6:                  llama.feed_forward_length u32              = 14336
llama_model_loader: - kv   7:                 llama.rope.dimension_count u32              = 128
llama_model_loader: - kv   8:                 llama.attention.head_count u32              = 32
llama_model_loader: - kv   9:              llama.attention.head_count_kv u32              = 8
llama_model_loader: - kv  10:     llama.attention.layer_norm_rms_epsilon f32              = 0.000010
llama_model_loader: - kv  11:                       llama.rope.freq_base f32              = 500000.000000
llama_model_loader: - kv  12:                          general.file_type u32              = 15
llama_model_loader: - kv  13:                       tokenizer.ggml.model str              = gpt2
llama_model_loader: - kv  14:                      tokenizer.ggml.tokens arr[str,128256]  = ["!", "\"", "#", "$", "%", "&", "'", ...
llama_model_loader: - kv  15:                      tokenizer.ggml.scores arr[f32,128256]  = [0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.0000...
llama_model_loader: - kv  16:                  tokenizer.ggml.token_type arr[i32,128256]  = [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, ...
llama_model_loader: - kv  17:                      tokenizer.ggml.merges arr[str,280147]  = ["Ġ Ġ", "Ġ ĠĠĠ", "ĠĠ ĠĠ", "...
llama_model_loader: - kv  18:                tokenizer.ggml.bos_token_id u32              = 128000
llama_model_loader: - kv  19:                tokenizer.ggml.eos_token_id u32              = 128009
llama_model_loader: - kv  20:            tokenizer.ggml.padding_token_id u32              = 128000
llama_model_loader: - kv  21:                    tokenizer.chat_template str              = {% set loop_messages = messages %}{% ...
llama_model_loader: - kv  22:               general.quantization_version u32              = 2
llama_model_loader: - type  f32:   65 tensors
llama_model_loader: - type q4_K:  193 tensors
llama_model_loader: - type q6_K:   33 tensors
llm_load_vocab: special tokens definition check successful ( 256/128256 ).
llm_load_print_meta: format           = GGUF V3 (latest)
llm_load_print_meta: arch             = llama
llm_load_print_meta: vocab type       = BPE
llm_load_print_meta: n_vocab          = 128256
llm_load_print_meta: n_merges         = 280147
llm_load_print_meta: n_ctx_train      = 8192
llm_load_print_meta: n_embd           = 4096
llm_load_print_meta: n_head           = 32
llm_load_print_meta: n_head_kv        = 8
llm_load_print_meta: n_layer          = 32
llm_load_print_meta: n_rot            = 128
llm_load_print_meta: n_embd_head_k    = 128
llm_load_print_meta: n_embd_head_v    = 128
llm_load_print_meta: n_gqa            = 4
llm_load_print_meta: n_embd_k_gqa     = 1024
llm_load_print_meta: n_embd_v_gqa     = 1024
llm_load_print_meta: f_norm_eps       = 0.0e+00
llm_load_print_meta: f_norm_rms_eps   = 1.0e-05
llm_load_print_meta: f_clamp_kqv      = 0.0e+00
llm_load_print_meta: f_max_alibi_bias = 0.0e+00
llm_load_print_meta: f_logit_scale    = 0.0e+00
llm_load_print_meta: n_ff             = 14336
llm_load_print_meta: n_expert         = 0
llm_load_print_meta: n_expert_used    = 0
llm_load_print_meta: causal attn      = 1
llm_load_print_meta: pooling type     = 0
llm_load_print_meta: rope type        = 0
llm_load_print_meta: rope scaling     = linear
llm_load_print_meta: freq_base_train  = 500000.0
llm_load_print_meta: freq_scale_train = 1
llm_load_print_meta: n_yarn_orig_ctx  = 8192
llm_load_print_meta: rope_finetuned   = unknown
llm_load_print_meta: ssm_d_conv       = 0
llm_load_print_meta: ssm_d_inner      = 0
llm_load_print_meta: ssm_d_state      = 0
llm_load_print_meta: ssm_dt_rank      = 0
llm_load_print_meta: model type       = 8B
llm_load_print_meta: model ftype      = Q4_K - Medium
llm_load_print_meta: model params     = 8.03 B
llm_load_print_meta: model size       = 4.58 GiB (4.89 BPW)
llm_load_print_meta: general.name     = ..
llm_load_print_meta: BOS token        = 128000 '<|begin_of_text|>'
llm_load_print_meta: EOS token        = 128009 '<|eot_id|>'
llm_load_print_meta: PAD token        = 128000 '<|begin_of_text|>'
llm_load_print_meta: LF token         = 128 'Ä'
llm_load_print_meta: EOT token        = 128009 '<|eot_id|>'
ggml_cuda_init: GGML_CUDA_FORCE_MMQ:   yes
ggml_cuda_init: CUDA_USE_TENSOR_CORES: no
ggml_cuda_init: found 1 CUDA devices:
  Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060, compute capability 7.5, VMM: yes
llm_load_tensors: ggml ctx size =    0.30 MiB
llm_load_tensors: offloading 32 repeating layers to GPU
llm_load_tensors: offloading non-repeating layers to GPU
llm_load_tensors: offloaded 33/33 layers to GPU
llm_load_tensors:        CPU buffer size =   281.81 MiB
llm_load_tensors:      CUDA0 buffer size =  4403.49 MiB
........................................................................................
llama_new_context_with_model: n_ctx      = 8192
llama_new_context_with_model: n_batch    = 512
llama_new_context_with_model: n_ubatch   = 512
llama_new_context_with_model: freq_base  = 500000.0
llama_new_context_with_model: freq_scale = 1
llama_kv_cache_init:      CUDA0 KV buffer size =  1024.00 MiB
llama_new_context_with_model: KV self size  = 1024.00 MiB, K (f16):  512.00 MiB, V (f16):  512.00 MiB
llama_new_context_with_model:  CUDA_Host  output buffer size =     0.49 MiB
llama_new_context_with_model:      CUDA0 compute buffer size =   560.00 MiB
llama_new_context_with_model:  CUDA_Host compute buffer size =    24.01 MiB
llama_new_context_with_model: graph nodes  = 1030
llama_new_context_with_model: graph splits = 2
AVX = 1 | AVX_VNNI = 0 | AVX2 = 1 | AVX512 = 0 | AVX512_VBMI = 0 | AVX512_VNNI = 0 | FMA = 1 | NEON = 0 | ARM_FMA = 0 | F16C = 1 | FP16_VA = 0 | WASM_SIMD = 0 | BLAS = 1 | SSE3 = 1 | SSSE3 = 0 | VSX = 0 | MATMUL_INT8 = 0 |
Model metadata: {'general.name': '..', 'general.architecture': 'llama', 'llama.block_count': '32', 'llama.vocab_size': '128256', 'llama.context_length': '8192', 'llama.rope.dimension_count': '128', 'llama.embedding_length': '4096', 'llama.feed_forward_length': '14336', 'llama.attention.head_count': '32', 'tokenizer.ggml.eos_token_id': '128009', 'general.file_type': '15', 'llama.attention.head_count_kv': '8', 'llama.attention.layer_norm_rms_epsilon': '0.000010', 'llama.rope.freq_base': '500000.000000', 'tokenizer.ggml.model': 'gpt2', 'general.quantization_version': '2', 'tokenizer.ggml.bos_token_id': '128000', 'tokenizer.ggml.padding_token_id': '128000', 'tokenizer.chat_template': "{% set loop_messages = messages %}{% for message in loop_messages %}{% set content = '<|start_header_id|>' + message['role'] + '<|end_header_id|>\n\n'+ message['content'] | trim + '<|eot_id|>' %}{% if loop.index0 == 0 %}{% set content = bos_token + content %}{% endif %}{{ content }}{% endfor %}{% if add_generation_prompt %}{{ '<|start_header_id|>assistant<|end_header_id|>\n\n' }}{% endif %}"}
Guessed chat format: llama-3
20:08:44-026782 INFO     LOADER: "llama.cpp"
20:08:44-029291 INFO     TRUNCATION LENGTH: 8192
20:08:44-030042 INFO     INSTRUCTION TEMPLATE: "Custom (obtained from model metadata)"
20:08:44-031543 INFO     Loaded the model in 11.35 seconds.
Output generated in 6.25 seconds (20.92 tokens/s, 138 tokens, context 468, seed 246950652)

System Info

OS - Win 11 23H2
GPU - RTX 2060 12G

[EsterLoken]

Not much to add other than that I've noticed the same while playing around with llama3. LMStudio generates at around 70-80 tok/s while the same model (Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct-Q8_0.gguf) in webui tops out at roughly half of that, around 45 tok/s.

RTX 4090, Win 10 22H2