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add relations to connect multi-gene alleles to the genomic features altered by the allele

Open sbello opened this issue 3 years ago • 7 comments

The Alliance of Genome resources would like to have a set of relations to connect alleles to the genes altered by the allele. These are primarily for multi-gene alleles such as large deletions or duplications.

We have a spreadsheet of suggested new terms (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q09xpN60ffJ5WKx6EFFSr3j5xyrgd8XMJTK53_pwU3E/edit?usp=sharing) with definitions and curator notes. Definitions are currently referencing sequence ontology terms for the mutation types but we need to consult with the SO team to refine some of these terms.

We would appreciate feedback on the definitions as we have been struggling to create definitions that conform to existing RO definitions and are comprehensible to the curators. For example for the term "mutation deletes" we have 4 variations of the definition:

  1. "The marker relation in which the organizer is of type allele and evidence suggests that some part of the participant is involved in the mutation defined by the organizer."
  2. "The relation in which the larger entity is a deletion allele (SO:0000159), and evidence suggests that part or all of the specified biological region (SO:0001411) is deleted."
  3. "The relation in which the larger entity is a deletion allele (SO:0000159) that deletes part or all of the specified biological region (SO:0001411)."
  4. "The relation in which a deletion allele (SO:0000159) deletes part or all of the specified biological region (SO:0001411)." Note SO:0000159 is overly broad as we want the relation to connect a large deletion to genes that fall within the region.

Some examples of these relations as they are currently used in MGI Del(3Bglap2-Bglap)1Kry www.informatics.jax.org/allele/mutationInvolves/MGI:4949086 Mp http://www.informatics.jax.org/allele/mutationInvolves/MGI:1861183

Please let me know if you want to set up a meeting or have some of us join your call to discuss these.

Thanks, Sue

sbello avatar Jan 20 '22 16:01 sbello

Can anyone help respond to this?

nlharris avatar Feb 07 '22 18:02 nlharris

@sbello I think it will be difficult to get such feedback here. Bring to the phenotype editors call and ask @dosumis, this is all in scope

matentzn avatar Feb 07 '22 18:02 matentzn

I have some comments:

  • the clinical community is staying away from using the word "mutation". They prefer the term "variation" instead.
  • I know that the term "allele" is used to mean different concepts in different communities. Therefore we should be very careful about using this term, especially in definitions.
  • I am confused by what is on the table, as these relations seem to refer to a "variant" and not "allele" as defined at the Alliance.

More generally, I wonder whether these relations are needed: I am specifically referring to projects such as linkML. The relations proposed include information that is already attached to the mutation/variant (e.g. deletion), and therefore, I wonder whether such specific relations are required. I feel like more discussions are needed. (my 2 cents)

sabrinatoro avatar Feb 07 '22 18:02 sabrinatoro

Not really a phenotype ontology issue.

Text of these definitions is a bit odd. Perhaps change to something in plainer English. e.g.

"The relationship between a chromosomal deletion and a gene it deletes."

Also check with @cmungall and others in Monarch to try to ensure alignment with linkML

dosumis avatar Feb 10 '22 18:02 dosumis

I suggested to @sbello to bring it to the call because you are currently our only hope of responding to such questions.. Its bad, but I don't know anyone else :P Sorry about overloading uPheno call that way!

matentzn avatar Feb 10 '22 18:02 matentzn

A couple more potential definitions for "mutation deletes"

  • The relationship between a region in which parts or all of more than 1 genomic element have been removed and a genomic element (e.g. protein coding gene, regulatory region, ncRNA gene) that would be within the corresponding region in a reference genome.
  • The relationship between a genomic deletion and a genomic element (e.g. gene, regulatory region) that is fully or partially removed by that deletion.

sbello avatar Mar 02 '22 19:03 sbello

Second def sounds good to me.

dosumis avatar Mar 17 '22 07:03 dosumis

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