Node.js User Feedback Session - 2019-04-25 - Virtual - Node Enterprise Focus Group

[ahmadnassri]

Date & Time

UTC Thursday 25-April-2019 17:00 (05:00 PM):

Timezone	Date/Time
US / Pacific	Thu 25-Apr-2019 10:00 (10:00 AM)
US / Mountain	Thu 25-Apr-2019 11:00 (11:00 AM)
US / Central	Thu 25-Apr-2019 12:00 (12:00 AM)
US / Eastern	Thu 25-Apr-2019 13:00 (01:00 PM)
London	Thu 25-Apr-2019 18:00 (06:00 PM)
Amsterdam	Thu 25-Apr-2019 19:00 (07:00 PM)
Moscow	Thu 25-Apr-2019 20:00 (08:00 PM)
Chennai	Thu 25-Apr-2019 22:30 (10:30 PM)
Hangzhou	Fri 26-Apr-2019 01:00 (01:00 AM)
Tokyo	Fri 26-Apr-2019 02:00 (02:00 AM)
Sydney	Fri 26-Apr-2019 03:00 (03:00 AM)

Or in your local time:

• https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Node%20Enterprise%20Focus%20Group+2019-04-25&iso=20190425T17

Links

• Minutes Google Doc:

Agenda

Gather feedback and insights on challenges faced by closed-source projects that use Node.js within the context of large businesses. These challenges might not be immediately visible to the open source community, but they have a domino effect on all users.

• The effects of change in the OSS domain to business operations
• The cost of adoption vs. the total cost of ownership for Node.js application development
• The capacity for Node.js to drive business revenue and curb cost burdens
• Call for Actions:
  • Node Releases: better understand Enterprise plans of adoption and barriers
    • v12 released on April 23
    • Key EOL dates:
      • 2019-04-30: Node.js v6 EOL
      • 2019-12-31: Node.js v8 EOL
      • 2021-04-30: Node.js v10 EOL
  • Package Maintenance
    • discussion on how to help ensure baseline maintenance and ability to safely use key packages in the ecosystem with current Node.js versions.

Invited

• User Feedback Members: @nodejs/user-feedback
• Enterprise Group Members:
  • Aaron Heckmann <@aheckmann> - @PayPal
  • William Blankenship <@retrohacker> - @Netflix
  • Adrian Maurer <@adrianmaurer> - @ CGI
  • Joel Chen <@jchip> - @walmartlabs
  • Keith Moore <@AntiqueSounds> - @hewlettpackard
  • Luke Browell <@lukebrowell> - @Sage
  • Steve Tannock <@stv> - @TELUS

Notes

Joining the meeting

• link for participants: https://zoom.us/j/353642832
• We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live. It should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

[boneskull]

Do we have participants lined up for this?

[ahmadnassri]

@boneskull yes, I'll be updating the ticket with their names and making a PR to the repo as well, once I get confirmation from them.

[ShrawanLakhe]

how can one participate in these sessions?

[ahmadnassri]

@ShrawanLakhe you can join the meeting as a participant on Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/353642832, or watch live stream on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live

if you wish to become a member / active participant, then that is a good question, and I do not have a good answer to how-to yet, perhaps that would be a topic of discussion in the meeting itself. (i.e. how to systematically invite / include representation from more enterprise companies)

thoughts and feedback more than welcome as we build out this focus group!

[ShrawanLakhe]

@ShrawanLakhe you can join the meeting as a participant on Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/353642832, or watch live stream on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live

if you wish to become a member / active participant, then that is a good question, and I do not have a good answer to how-to yet, perhaps that would be a topic of discussion in the meeting itself. (i.e. how to systematically invite / include representation from more enterprise companies)

thoughts and feedback more than welcome as we build out this focus group!

@ahmadnassri Thank you for the info

[ghost]

Thank you, Ahmad! blog post is live: https://medium.com/@nodejs/introducing-the-node-js-enterprise-focus-group-312ff9f49aaa

[dominykas]

The headline here says the meeting time is:

UTC Thursday 25-April-2019 17:00 (05:00 PM):

But the table says:

London | Thu 25-Apr-2019 17:00 (05:00 PM)

I assume the UTC one is correct (i.e. it's 6pm in London, due to summer time), so the table should be updated?

Also is it intended to overlap with the meeting in #149?

[mhdawson]

@ahmadnassri can you clear up the confusion over the time? We either need to change this issue or the calendar entry.

[ahmadnassri]

updated the time table, thank you @dominykas for catching that mistake, a couple of other cities were also fixed!

also, to note this meeting replaces #149

[mhdawson]

@ahmadnassri I'm still confused the Calendar say 1 PM, while the entries in the first post says 12 EST in the list of times. I'm assuming its 1EST since that is what is in the calendar and matches 5 PM UTC but the table of times in the first post seems to be out of date.

[ahmadnassri]

@mhdawson we should (if this doesn't exist already) talk about automating the issue creation with some cli tooling to solve these manual steps ;)

hopefully fixed the time table for the last time, thank you all!

[mhdawson]

@ahmadnassri there is already automated generation. The other issue that we closed was the automatically generated issue. It works best for recurring meetings and automatically generates the issue from the node.js/calendar. Once there is a cadence for the enterprise sub-group you can PR templates into: https://github.com/nodejs/create-node-meeting-artifacts/tree/master/templates as per https://github.com/nodejs/create-node-meeting-artifacts/blob/master/TEMPLATES_DOCUMENTATION.md

[ahmadnassri]

this is good to know! thank you @mhdawson

[ghost]

live now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhyHkdoQDac

[dshaw]

Node.js release schedule JSON https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nodejs/Release/master/schedule.json

[ghost]

Thank you all, for participating in this meeting. Meeting notes available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15RDN7deM6wf2X271zpayrRSSnqdGO_1S0kTvfx5Agwo