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[BUG] After about half an hour of use, quickminer's performance collapses with 3060ti card

Open fradem72 opened this issue 2 years ago • 28 comments

*I have had this problem since I started mining in December 2021 but in recent months I had solved it by opening a ps2 emulator together with Quickminer and this thing worked until a couple of days ago but now the problem has come back> after about 30 min where quickiner works regularly set to high optimization and undermines around 60 mhs of speed, it collapses and stops at 37 ... the watts from about 130 croill to about 97 and there is no c-e- way to get it back up at less that I do not reset the pc and is another half hour at 60 and then roll back to 36/37. what can i do to solve? what can it depend on? please help me

this issue is in every version i tried to install, BOTH FOR QUICKMINER AND NVIDIA DRIVERS

NVIDIA driver version 512.17

Hardware 3060 ti lhr intel core i5 11600k processor 16gb RAM DDR4

fradem72 avatar Jun 24 '22 06:06 fradem72

noone has some ideas or suggestions on it?

fradem72 avatar Jun 25 '22 12:06 fradem72

The same is happening with me . I have 3060ti and this is happening as well.

I have multiple other Rigs like 3090 and 3080ti 1080ti

But the only rig not stable with quickminer is 3060ti

If anyone needs logs to send am ready to send for analysis

By the way if I worked with the stable version which is not RC , then the rig is stable

elmajdal avatar Jul 03 '22 07:07 elmajdal

Does the issue persist with the latest 0550 release?

Dohtar1337 avatar Jul 14 '22 10:07 Dohtar1337

Yes Still.

Any version After 0.5.3.6 is not stable.

0.5.3.6 works perfectly, i tried all RC versions and also 0.5.5.5.0 , however, Quickminer Excavator keeps restartings or even crash the machine and restarts or leads to BSOD

elmajdal avatar Jul 14 '22 11:07 elmajdal

Do you use the installed version?

Please try uninstalling it completely and run the installer again.

please let me know if this fixed the issue.

Dohtar1337 avatar Jul 15 '22 10:07 Dohtar1337

Do you use the installed version?

Please try uninstalling it completely and run the installer again.

please let me know if this fixed the issue.

I even formatted the machine mutliple times.

and Yes i use the installed version.

There is an issue wit the 3060Ti cards.

I have multiple rigs with 3080 Ti, 3090

the only issue is with the 3060 Ti cards.

any version after the 0.5.3.6 has a bug with the 3060Ti

elmajdal avatar Jul 16 '22 23:07 elmajdal

I might have the same problem. After I updated to the latest versions, my rig sometimes crashes with 3060ti. But it didn't happen when I was using 0.5.3.6 It also do not happen to my other rigs without 3060ti. I tried recovering windows system files and diagnose hardware but didn't fix it.

asakiasako avatar Jul 18 '22 04:07 asakiasako

Stop the mining first and edit the nhqm.conf

In the line with the command 'launcheCommandLine' , add the -CLS

"launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

Start the mining again and the -CLS will be seen in the excavator console.

Dohtar1337 avatar Jul 20 '22 06:07 Dohtar1337

Stop the mining first and edit the nhqm.conf

In the line with the command 'launcheCommandLine' , add the -CLS

"launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

Start the mining again and the -CLS will be seen in the excavator console.

I have changed the command line and started version 0.5.5.5.0

i will report later what happens with me

Thanks for the feedback.

elmajdal avatar Jul 20 '22 09:07 elmajdal

24 hours passed and with the new line changes "launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

version 0.5.5.5.0 is stable .

i will update after 72 if still stable.

elmajdal avatar Jul 21 '22 10:07 elmajdal

For my info: what is the function of -CLS in command line?

Il gio 21 lug 2022, 12:13 ElMajdal @.***> ha scritto:

24 hours passed and with the new line changes "launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

version 0.5.5.5.0 is stable .

i will update after 72 if still stable.

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fradem72 avatar Jul 21 '22 11:07 fradem72

"launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

FEATURE - The LHRv3 unlock system has two algorithms: the first leading to a faster hash rate and the second being more stable. The default algorithm is the fastest one, switch to the more stable one can be achieved by using "-CLS" in the Excavator command line.

elmajdal avatar Jul 21 '22 11:07 elmajdal

it seems it finally works properly!

fradem72 avatar Jul 23 '22 15:07 fradem72

24 hours passed and with the new line changes "launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

version 0.5.5.5.0 is stable .

i will update after 72 if still stable.

72 hours passed and the rig is stable with version 0.5.5.5.0 after applying -CLS

elmajdal avatar Jul 24 '22 13:07 elmajdal

Stop the mining first and edit the nhqm.conf

In the line with the command 'launcheCommandLine' , add the -CLS

"launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

Start the mining again and the -CLS will be seen in the excavator console.

This recipe didn't work for me. I try nhqm 0.5.5.0 with "-CLS" and nvdr 512.77 and system crashed like before.

DEF29 avatar Jul 27 '22 15:07 DEF29

Stop the mining first and edit the nhqm.conf

In the line with the command 'launcheCommandLine' , add the -CLS

"launchCommandLine" : "-qx -qm -d 2 -f 6 -CLS",

Start the mining again and the -CLS will be seen in the excavator console.

This recipe didn't work for me. I try nhqm 0.5.5.0 with "-CLS" and nvdr 512.77 and system crashed like before.

Same for me. My rig is stable with 0.5.4.0, the version after that is not stable. For me, sometimes 0.5.5.0 could work well for a week, and then my system crashes. So need further observation I think.

asakiasako avatar Jul 27 '22 16:07 asakiasako

I recommend everyone to try v0.5.5.1 RC I uninstalled v0.5.5.0 and installed v0.5.5.1 RC and the system became more stable. However, version 0.5.5.1 RC did not resolve the BSOD issue after I quit the NHQM program or just stopped mining. I'll post later how testing goes.

DEF29 avatar Jul 29 '22 00:07 DEF29

36 hours passed since I started using v0.5.5.1 RC. While mining is going on, the system has never collapsed. The system is stable. I hope that the issue is resolved positively.

However, version 0.5.5.1 RC did not resolve the BSOD issue after I quit the NHQM program or just stopped mining.

DEF29 avatar Jul 29 '22 13:07 DEF29

I'm using v5.5.1 RC and my 3060ti cards are crashing after a few hours. It gets stuck in a loop whereby it says already running, closing in x seconds. Already using the "-CLS".

ybop avatar Aug 03 '22 07:08 ybop

I have done some testing.

  1. Running NHQM with the medium profile set in rig manager but not not actually mining. Just running it to set the clock speeds.
  2. Next I run NBMINER to miningpoolhub and getting similar or slightly better hashrates but more importantly rock solid stable.

With identical clock settings, PC crashes after 30 to 300 minutes using NHQM. My rigs are as follows:

  1. 3070ti
  2. 3060ti
  3. 3060ti
  4. 3060ti
  5. 3060ti
  6. 3060ti
  7. 1070ti
  8. 1070ti

Using NHQM 0.5.5.1 RC with -CLS

Also, if mining with NHQM and I try to stop it, it will get stuck closing and sometimes it will BSOD.

So I think there is an issue with NHQM and 3060ti cards.

I will download nicehash miner and test NBMINER with that. I really like NHQM and will change back when it's fixed.

ybop avatar Aug 04 '22 02:08 ybop

Same for me. My rig is stable with 0.5.4.0, the version after that is not stable.

Something definitely changed after this version. Hashrates bleed erratically as watts bounce all over the place and 3060ti rigs highly unstable. Best you can get after massive tweaking is just excavator restarting. Please put whatever is in this version back into the latest version and allow us to set manually if we want to use lhrv3 unlock for our cards if this can not be automatically deciphered by the miner. Much appreciated.

tjayz avatar Aug 06 '22 02:08 tjayz

Currently running NHQM with mining stopped (just to set the clocks) and nicehash miner using the NBMINER plugin everything set to only mine daggerhashimoto and rigs are doing fine. On the rare occasion there is a problem, NBMINER simply restarts and all good again. The main problem with NHQM and 3060ti cards is when it crashes, it is unable to recover. Either BSOD or gets stuck in an endless loop saying something like already running, closing in x seconds. Fixing crash recovery should be the first priority and then improving stability to match NBMINER.

ybop avatar Aug 06 '22 03:08 ybop

ybop, use NHQM 0.5.5.1 RC in optimization mode and then you probably will not have system crashes. I have 2 cards of 3060 TI and 3 cards of 3070 TI in my rig and system is stable now.

When you switch to optimization mode, use manual overclocking settings for your video card model from this article: https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/nvidia-and-amd-graphics-card-oc-settings-for-mining

Optimization mode allows you to achieve low power consumption and at the same time maintain a high hashrate.

Also do not forget that Chinese PSUs should not be loaded more than 65%. This will avoid overload protection (unexpected stop of the PSU), heating of the PCI-E connectors at the points of connection to the video card and inside the PSU itself, which in the end can lead to a FIRE.

DEF29 avatar Aug 07 '22 12:08 DEF29

image

It is my case on NHQM 0.5.5.1 RC in optimization mode. It works fine for about 10 days without BSOD and any crashes.

DEF29 avatar Aug 07 '22 12:08 DEF29

ybop, use NHQM 0.5.5.1 RC in optimization mode and then you probably will not have system crashes.

I have run it in optimization mode and done a lot of tinkering with the clocks and voltages but the instability continues. The fact that it is stable with NBMINER but not excavator shows there is a problem with the latter which hopefully will be fixed.

I use Silverstone ST1500ti power supplies loaded under 80% I have also customised pcie power cables (16AWG), much more reliable than stock.

I've been mining 5+ years and am well aware of the pitfalls and potential failure points. I love NHQM and look forward to going back to it when it's stable.

ybop avatar Aug 07 '22 12:08 ybop

I have included the screenshot above, check it out

imho 80% is too much

in your case, there may be a revision of the video card with memory, which is not stable during rapid heating

DEF29 avatar Aug 07 '22 12:08 DEF29

You are using a lot more juice than I am. My 3060ti's run stable using around 130 to 140 watts and 61 MH/s with NBMINER.

80% is totally fine, especially with a quality power supply. The main issue actually isn't that it crashes after a few hours, it's that it fails to recover.

I have tested everything and the final proof that my setup isn't faulty is seeing NBMINER running fine where NHQM crashes and gets stuck in an endless loop. Clearly there is something NHQM is doing differently that is causing this.

ybop avatar Aug 07 '22 12:08 ybop

tried your suggestion as seen below, working properly, also noticed NiceHash miner name the cards in their model ! NHQM does not have this option !

Screen Shot 2022-08-09 at 4 41 57 PM

elmajdal avatar Aug 09 '22 13:08 elmajdal

Does the issue still persist with the latest version?

Dohtar1337 avatar Sep 27 '22 09:09 Dohtar1337

With -cls command I solved...but the issue now is that from 0.00006500 average per day I cannot go over 0.00001050 per.day🥺

Il mar 27 set 2022, 11:17 Dohtar1337 @.***> ha scritto:

Does the issue still persist with the latest version?

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fradem72 avatar Sep 27 '22 09:09 fradem72