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The public share link has been removed with the 3.15 client version.

Open SebjuFrab opened this issue 11 months ago • 54 comments

Hi, The public share link has been removed with the 3.15 client version. Could it be possible to bring back this feature ? Below, a screen from a right click on a folder/file with the 3.14.3 client version (w10-w11 OS)

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Thank's Seb

SebjuFrab avatar Jan 14 '25 13:01 SebjuFrab

Hi. Same here. It was a great feature. Can we bring it back ?

SleinAlt-R avatar Jan 16 '25 07:01 SleinAlt-R

I have the same problem. It looks like the "shared options" were affected with version 3.15.x for many features.

forsgear avatar Jan 16 '25 15:01 forsgear

Same topic in the forum: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/since-upgrade-to-windows-client-3-15-0-share-public-link-is-missing-in-explorer-menu/211053

MichaelUray avatar Jan 18 '25 13:01 MichaelUray

Hi All, this is working as expected. We removed it because too many users used this option unintentionally.

camilasan avatar Feb 04 '25 13:02 camilasan

Then I propose to implement an option which you can check to have it there again, because many users used it intentionally.

MichaelUray avatar Feb 04 '25 13:02 MichaelUray

@camilasan Okay, then please turn it off by default and make a setting for those who want it back. As a screen reader user, I find it extremely cumbersome to go the whole procedure, whose accessibility is also not the best, instead of just selecting a context menu item in the File Explorer.

Menelion avatar Feb 04 '25 16:02 Menelion

Hi All, this is working as expected. We removed it because too many users used this option unintentionally.

I am wondering what actually the problem is if you hit it unintentionally. You have then just a link in the clipboard with no use of it.

MichaelUray avatar Feb 04 '25 17:02 MichaelUray

I am also missing it dearly since it is my most often used feature on the Mac and iOS. In Dropbox it has always been there and it never was a problem for users. I'd strongly urge the devs to bring it back and if you think it's necessary make it optional in the Prefs.

Also: it takes WAY to many clicks on iOS and the Mac to generate a public link. It should need not more then right-click → Copy Public Link or Long-Press (or similarly easy functions) on iOS.

This is the main function why we (3 companies) had NextCloud in the first place: drop a file somewhere, right-click, share.

gitlik avatar Feb 05 '25 22:02 gitlik

Goodness gratuitous. This is madness :D 2 of my clients freaked out and had half a day of chaos. Please make it an option. And my personal suggestion: Only because some person says it bothers them … does not make up for the possible huge amount of happy users.

It's the same thing with my clients, when somebody shows up and says they don't get the interface, they are the one who give a complaint because they feel obliged to. But everybody happily using it, does not have a need to give feedback.

florianschommertz avatar Feb 05 '25 22:02 florianschommertz

I can't believe this has been removed ... this is most of the reason I use the desktop client.

Surely this doesn't hinder anybody's use of the program?

Couldn't the copy the button just have been moved instead of deleted?

The loss of this button actually removes function from the software.

How does one copy the existing public link of a share now?

jamesn81 avatar Feb 06 '25 03:02 jamesn81

Strange move to remove the sharing option from a sharing platform. Please bring it back.

HLeithner avatar Feb 06 '25 06:02 HLeithner

I don't know how many hours I have trained my colleagues/customers and now this? Seriously?

Please bring it back as an option (OPT-IN if necessary)...

Ceelight avatar Feb 06 '25 10:02 Ceelight

Changing this is not in our roadmap at the moment. In the future, what we would implement or accept as a PR ;) is to ask for the user's confirmation when a public share link is created.

camilasan avatar Feb 06 '25 10:02 camilasan

I would like to respectfully add to the discussion that this feature (right-click, copy public link) is the single most used feature for all of our users. I imagine most users that use Nextcloud for quick and simple file-sharing will be looking for the "Share public link" option.

Removing this established context-menu item without a setting to make it optional is an astonishing decision.

dawolf avatar Feb 06 '25 11:02 dawolf

I feel, we need to start a petition. I'm not joking, core devs seem not to grasp the simple idea that right click -> copy link is THE feature of the desktop clients. Let alone blind screen reader users like me, I imagine explaining this to users struggling with modern technology. I'm really unpleasantly surprised why such a step was carried out and why an opt-in setting cannot be introduced. Those small things often degrade the whole experience to nearly unusable levels.

Menelion avatar Feb 06 '25 11:02 Menelion

Hi All, this is working as expected. We removed it because too many users used this option unintentionally.

May I ask whether this was a discussion on the Discourse forum, on GitHub or was it a weight of individual feedback through other channels?

jamesn81 avatar Feb 06 '25 12:02 jamesn81

Please make it an option and get is back please.

superknutsel avatar Feb 06 '25 12:02 superknutsel

This is complete madness. For all my users this is at least a daily use-case. Perhaps go for a default-lifetime of the link (like 72h or something). But please bring this feature back.

ma3s7r0 avatar Feb 06 '25 12:02 ma3s7r0

Please bring it back. I use Nextcloud Desktop privatly AND at work and I train this feature to my family AND my coworkerst to use it instead of mail attachments.

HoffmannP avatar Feb 06 '25 17:02 HoffmannP

How came this idea actually up that it gets used unintentionally?

MichaelUray avatar Feb 06 '25 18:02 MichaelUray

Honestly, bring it back in some form! You must be kidding me, come ON!

FlavourDave92 avatar Feb 06 '25 18:02 FlavourDave92

Changing this is not in our roadmap at the moment. In the future, what we would implement or accept as a PR ;)

Frankly, this lack of communication is disturbing. Removing one of the most popular features and then adding no context other than "some had problems, deal with it" is not a proper way to run "enterprise" software.

You start by losing touch with your users, you end up losing them.

rstockm avatar Feb 06 '25 19:02 rstockm

this is working as expected.

No, it isn’t. No one could have expected you to remove some core functionality of this tool out of a whim.

We removed it because too many users used this option unintentionally.

Sorry but this “justification” is nonsense (to avoid more colourful wording). If you want to stop people using that unintentionally just display some dialogue and ask before sharing and maybe add some setting to switch the feature on/off but please don’t just take it away from us.

LaTeX-fetishist avatar Feb 06 '25 22:02 LaTeX-fetishist

Has anyone tried to discuss this on the forums and/or to send email messages? Also, are here any interprise clients who actually pay NextCloud for support? Would be interesting if you send them an angry message motivating that you pay actual money for a product that lost one of its core functions out of the blue.

Menelion avatar Feb 06 '25 23:02 Menelion

I fully agree to everyone on here who wants the feature back. Previously hosted a NC for my private use but this is the reason why I didn't botter to set it up on my new server again. The accessibillity of the client for screenreader users like me in general is bad and I find it extremely audacity to just turn away by saying uh yeah it's not on our roadmap, we removed it, but hey we don't care, just create a pr with a confirmation then. Guess what, the confirmation will be as annoying and as many people will trigger it unwanted. There is literally no problem with an opt in or even opt out setting.

Jonathans859 avatar Feb 07 '25 15:02 Jonathans859

I, too, am a screen reader user. The biggest appeal of something like Nextcloud for me for files is exactly that I can right-click a file in my explorer of choice, get a sharing link, and do whatever I need with that link, whether that's sending a file over email or just moving it between my own machines. If what I'm reading here is true, sounds like I'll have to run the entire process through the browser/web interface now, at which point I have a bunch of quicker-to-me ways of sharing that file including just scping it into a public web root somewhere and generating a link from memory. :)

I can't help wondering if there might have been a better middle ground here? Would anyone who misunderstood/misused this feature mind explaining how? I won't judge or argue, I just want to understand the misunderstanding.

ndarilek avatar Feb 07 '25 17:02 ndarilek

@ndarilek Basically yes. Theoretically you can do it via their desktop client, but as it is an accessibility nightmare in those dialogs, it's better to go and create a public link on the web page. Which is a shame.

Menelion avatar Feb 07 '25 19:02 Menelion

I would also like to see the function in the client again. Perhaps as a function that is deactivated by default and has to be explicitly activated.

jamfx avatar Feb 19 '25 08:02 jamfx

We shouldn't have closed this topic. It's one of the topics that sparks the most reactions and discussions. I don't understand why it's been closed. Please, reconsider bringing back the feature. I currently decline the update because this feature is missing and it's the same for quite a lot of my coworkers.

SleinAlt-R avatar Feb 19 '25 10:02 SleinAlt-R

Downgraded to 3.14.3 to have this necessary capability back. I use NextCloud as a personal cloud for my business and share links constantly with clients. Removing this feature makes NextCloud much less usable as a sharing service--the interface for creating a public link through the dialogue box requires many more clicks and interrupts the smoothness of my workflow. Not to mention the accessibility issues of the dialogue box. Please revert the change.

zeitkunst avatar Feb 23 '25 21:02 zeitkunst