Add pedestrian crossing as a tool?

[nekromoff]

But then should we also add cycling crossing tool?

[miclf]

Hi there! I’ve just stumbled upon your project thanks to some friends, and got a good first impression so far! :)

Regarding pedestrian (and potentially cycling) crossings, and even though this article paints pedestrian crossings in blue, I personally consider that these crossings are part of the space occupied by cars.

If we think about it, in most cases, the majority of users going over “pedestrian” crossings are… cars. In crossings where traffic lights are present, most of the crossing time is dedicated to cars. Some traffic lights even give barely enough time for pedestrians to cross the street… Moreover, since cars go much faster than pedestrians, even more of them can cross in a given period of time. When no traffic lights are present, the ratio of cars versus pedestrians is usually even more gigantic.

Another reason making me think that this is primarily “car spaces” is that, before the domination of cars, when streets were still full of actual people rather than inhumane-looking automotive monsters, pedestrians could cross streets anywhere. The pedestrian crossings have been created to “educate” (or more exactly to “submit”) pedestrians so that they could cross the streets only at some specific locations (instead of wherever they want). The goal was to allow cars to move as freely as possible without having to watch out for pedestrians, except at crossings. So, to me, pedestrian crossings are tools of pedestrian submission, and not anywhere close to being tools that would allow pedestrians to reconquer space from cars.

As a result, I personally don’t see a need to mark these crossings in any special way. I actually think that may even damage the effectiveness of the tool. But maybe all of this could be different in some contexts/cities/places.

Just my two cents :)

[nekromoff]

Thanks for your comment. I kind of agree, however I just added this issue because Mikael had this separate category in the original illustrations.

E.g. see this image: https://miro.medium.com/max/1754/1*ZE2fH9u3dXFtoL0TMUuOtg.png

[tdelmas]

Maybe categories (text/colors) could be editable, so text and colors can be adjusted and more category manually added to fit every case? So users could paint crossing in orange if they wanted to, or plaint shared streets differently. Even private properties and water could require its own text/color

[nekromoff]

We want to have standardized colors, so it's easy to recognize for any city. Also, there is no need for more categories, you can always use gray or yellow or just leave parts undescribed.

With all of that said, you can always fork this project and suit it to your needs.

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Maybe categories (text/colors) could be editable, so text and colors can be adjusted and more category manually added to fit every case? So users could paint crossing in orange if they wanted to, or plaint shared streets differently. Even private properties and water could require its own text/color

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