Feature request—switch POV between characters in free H scenes enhancement

[A77125]

"KK_PovX" and "RealPOV.Koikatu" cannot be used normally VR

Add support for "KK_PovX" and "RealPOV.Koikatu" ，please.

[A77125]

POV MOD：

KK_PovX https://github.com/FairBear/KK_PovX

RealPOV.Koikatu https://github.com/IllusionMods/KeelPlugins/tree/e8595deef356157b02840f535afec3c52c6fa20d

[mosirnik]

I think I don't know exactly how people want a POV feature to work.

I can think of 3 options at least.

1. The camera is completely fixed at target character's eye position.
2. The camera moves when target character's head moves, but it also moves when you move your head.
3. The camera doesn't move when target character's head moves.

(1) seems like it can take away spacial awareness of the user and can be very uncomfortable or even dangerous. (2) still likely induces heavy motion sickness because the camera is moved around unpredictably. (3) is more like a "jump to character" feature than a POV feature.

What do people want? One of the 3 options or something else?

[A77125]

Thank you for your answer, the first one is I want, but want to similar VAM plugin "Embody" function, can be controlled by VR or the mouse under the POV character head orientation .

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I think I don't know exactly how people want a POV feature to work.

I can think of 3 options at least.

The camera is completely fixed at target character's eye position.

The camera moves when target character's head moves, but it also moves when you move your head.

The camera doesn't move when target character's head moves.

(1) seems like it can take away spacial awareness of the user and can be very uncomfortable or even dangerous. (2) still likely induces heavy motion sickness because the camera is moved around unpredictably. (3) is more like a "jump to character" feature than a POV feature.

What do people want? One of the 3 options or something else?

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[mosirnik]

Thanks for your reply.

I have no prior experience with VAM, but Embody looks like it does much more than a POV feature, like controlling the character by moving your body. Are you referring specifically to the "passenger" mode?

I guess I'm going to try VAM myself and see how it works.

[PinkGandalf]

Hi, may i know if there are any updates regarding this POV mode for H scenes?

[mosirnik]

I'll probably get around to it eventually, but no concrete plan yet. Pull requests are welcome.

[shunakaraiku]

Hello, first I would like to say thanks for the amazing mod to allow the use of VR for the rest of the game and not just the built in VR for H scenes. I would like to know if it is possible for you to implement a way to access the normal VR modes caress system as it works fairly well with the exception of being unable to change caress mode as far as I am aware? If there isn't a way to access the normal VR mode, then is it possible to implement something similar where your hand movements affect the motion of the caress?

[tony246642]

The POV feature Codes & DLLs is implemented below https://github.com/tony246642/KK_MainGameVR/releases/tag/POV

3 POV modes provided

I have tried option (1) but it seems bad, so I slightly change it to make more comfortable

Feel free to let me know if you have any questions :)

[A77125]

The POV feature Codes & DLLs is implemented below https://github.com/tony246642/KK_MainGameVR/releases/tag/POV

3 POV modes provided

I have tried option (1) but it seems bad, so I slightly change it to make more comfortable

Feel free to let me know if you have any questions :)

Thanks for your help, could you add the female POV and the option to not hide the head? the mirror show no head.

[marshalthetownrat]

The POV feature Codes & DLLs is implemented below https://github.com/tony246642/KK_MainGameVR/releases/tag/POV

3 POV modes provided

I have tried option (1) but it seems bad, so I slightly change it to make more comfortable

Feel free to let me know if you have any questions :)

Thank you for the awesome work! May I request a port of this feature for the CharacterStudio? It would be amazing if similar functionailties could be used in the studio as well. Thank you in advance for your consideration !

[novalaunchersa]

The POV feature Codes & DLLs is implemented below https://github.com/tony246642/KK_MainGameVR/releases/tag/POV

3 POV modes provided

I have tried option (1) but it seems bad, so I slightly change it to make more comfortable

Feel free to let me know if you have any questions :)

Nicely done bro. The issue is the trigger button is an already overloaded button for interactions, left mouse button, changing camera angle, hotkey combinations, etc, and here it's used to switch POVs and it's messing up with my config. Could it be moved to another button, or that we could assign that function like in [3. H button assignments (primary)], or just deactivating it, or using a keybord key instead? Any possibility would be helpful.

[tony246642]

@A77125 @marshalthetownrat @novalaunchersa I will try to add these features. If there is any suggestions, welcome to add in the forked repo issue list.

• POV button option (trigger button/configurable keyboard key)
• Compatible in CharaStudio
• Female POV (+hide female head)
• Disable Hide head option (only camera at male's head will hide itself, in what cases will it be used?)

[A77125]

@A77125 @marshalthetownrat @novalaunchersa I will try to add these features. If there is any suggestions, welcome to add in the forked repo issue list.

• POV button option (trigger button/configurable keyboard key)
• Compatible in CharaStudio
• Female POV (+hide female head)
• Disable Hide head option (only camera at male's head will hide itself, in what cases will it be used?)

Thanks for your help. I thought of a problem. If the head is not hide, the POV may be blocked by the head model, so you can add the ability to adjust the POV position (X, Y, Z).

[tony246642]

@A77125 @marshalthetownrat @novalaunchersa I will try to add these features. If there is any suggestions, welcome to add in the forked repo issue list.

• POV button option (trigger button/configurable keyboard key)
• Compatible in CharaStudio
• Female POV (+hide female head)
• Disable Hide head option (only camera at male's head will hide itself, in what cases will it be used?)

Thanks for your help. I thought of a problem. If the head is not hide, the POV may be blocked by the head model, so you can add the ability to adjust the POV position (X, Y, Z).

I got your point, so you want to show the head in mirror in POV mode 1&2 ?.

1. Use VR grap button to adjust x,y,z when POV and the camera won't go back to head.
2. Use six keys to adjust POV X,Y,Z.
3. Move Camera in front of the eye so the head won't be hide and won't block the camera.
4. Hide the head but show it in the mirror ,(currently have no idea how to do it)

I will try 1>2>3

[A77125]

I got your point, so you want to show the head in mirror in POV mode 1&2 ?.

1. Use VR grap button to adjust x,y,z when POV and the camera won't go back to head.
2. Use six keys to adjust POV X,Y,Z.
3. Move Camera in front of the eye so the head won't be hide and won't block the camera.
4. Hide the head but show it in the mirror ,(currently have no idea how to do it)

Yes,I want to add the female POV，show the head in the mirror in POV mode 1 & 2, and be able to adjust POV X, Y, Z(in POV mode 1 & 2),so the head model won't block the camera.

I have another idea，add a new POV mode , The camera is completely fixed at target character's eye position,but the VR controller can control the head, I want to know if this can be achieved? In the PC games the "KK_PovX" and "RealPOV. Koikatu" plugins can be control the head with a mouse.

[tony246642]

The POV feature Codes & DLLs is implemented below https://github.com/tony246642/KK_MainGameVR/releases/tag/POV 3 POV modes provided I have tried option (1) but it seems bad, so I slightly change it to make more comfortable Feel free to let me know if you have any questions :)

Nicely done bro. The issue is the trigger button is an already overloaded button for interactions, left mouse button, changing camera angle, hotkey combinations, etc, and here it's used to switch POVs and it's messing up with my config. Could it be moved to another button, or that we could assign that function like in [3. H button assignments (primary)], or just deactivating it, or using a keybord key instead? Any possibility would be helpful.

Feature updates. You can switch POV camera with keyboard keys, another VR button or mouse. + Female POV also. For other feature requests I might not get around to them, sorry about that. This plugin doesn't support Studio (other vr plugin have similar teleport camera incomplete features) and I'm not familiar with Studio. Same as mirror feature (using culling mask can hide head in VR Camera, I think it's a way, or follow RealPOV ways)