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Expand the notation `{within _, _ _}`?

Open IshiguroYoshihiro opened this issue 2 months ago • 2 comments

There is the notation {within i, continuous f} for an interval i and function f : R -> R where R : realType, but this notation {within i, ...} can used only for continuity.

There is a similar definition, the predicate derivable_oo_continuous_bnd, is used to express "continuous within a closed interval and derivable in the interior". https://github.com/math-comp/analysis/blob/3b30884c4a9134f8c98cfab47c9cfa7f6fd4db0d/theories/realfun.v#L1169-L1171 This predicate is used mainly in FTC2. For example, the lemma continuous_FTC2: https://github.com/math-comp/analysis/blob/3b30884c4a9134f8c98cfab47c9cfa7f6fd4db0d/theories/ftc.v#L545-L549

The assumptions in continuous_FTC2 will be "F is a C1 class function over [a, b]" but it separates into three in the statement, and continuous_FTC2 requires users to take derivative of F in advance. I think this shows the one of needs of extension the within notation. If it can be written as {within `[a, b], derivable F} as the existence of the derivative over [a, b], I wonder that continuous_FTC2 wouldn't requires a well-processed derivative and become more useful. I also think that the extension would relate to defining the set of C^n class functions over an interval.

IshiguroYoshihiro avatar Oct 28 '25 10:10 IshiguroYoshihiro

that notion seems to deserve a definition and a notation. what about generalizing it a bit as "continuous within X and derivable in the interior of X" for any set X in any topological space?

t6s avatar Nov 07 '25 13:11 t6s

(though derivability needs more structure than just topology, so it will not actually be "any" topological space. manifolds?)

t6s avatar Nov 07 '25 13:11 t6s