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3700X SysSetHack
Hello,
I am trying to use this program but unfortunately I am not sure if it works.
I did various things to get SysSetHack to show at least 1/16. Unfortunately, I can't force to check if this program actually works as it should. Please help.
Did you try 1.1.7 b6? Linked in this thread on overclock.net.
https://www.overclock.net/threads/cpudoc-little-cpu-helper-tool-with-some-exclusive-features.1802081/post-29104334
Sorry I missed the notification Please check with the beta as said by @milkmaman
What are the best PBO settings and voltage for the 3700X for the best gaming performance? I can set my CPU to 4450MHz 1.368V
I use PPT 135 and TDC 90 for my 3800X at EDC 1A. You can use ZenControl with these values leaving EDC 1A not Auto. ZenControl will lower the PPT/TDC based on load to get the best gaming perf.
BTW there's no reason to enable NumaZero with a 3700X unless it's a dual CCD and yours is not.
Is voltage reduction needed or will it reduce gaming performance? For EDC 1 I used -0.01875V.
It depends on your system; CPU, board, bios version, etc It's not needed, only set an offset if it helps increasing the clocks or performances
For EDC 1, the voltage offset has no major effect. I tested -0.0125, -0.01875 down to 0.0375V. The highest efficiency is at -0.01875V but these are 0.1% values.
It looks good. Even if very small the offset can have a very big impact.
Run some game benchmarks; for gaming it's probably better to keep the PowerTweak at AutoPower and ActiveMode/GameMode in Auto. But it could be different by system and also I haven't tested on Win11.
Nice program, satisfactory performance. Where you can check CPU performance at 1440p and low details (to get 165 fps+). I would like to test the settings with your program vs 4450MHz 1.368V.
Depends on the game; best is Shadow of the Tomb Raider to test CPU performances.
Ohh nice. AutoOC with your powerplan and software I see on 1080p ultra low 197fps. On 4450MHz 1.375V i see 201 ( only once) later 183-184. The first time I ran the test in 1080p I saw 192fps. Second time around 197fps on average. Probably the program put my processor in Booster mode. Or maybe it was better able to use the GPU.
I have an asus motherboard. In the PBO settings I have an option like FMax Enhancer. This is the option responsible for EDC. According to specialists in this function, the 3700X should achieve clocks higher than 4400MHz. Exactly this function is responsible for the EDC bug but it could be better optimized. I have a feeling that the cpu is throttled when EDC is set to 1. I would have to enable the Fmax function. Adjust the voltage offset to be exactly the same as EDC 1.
The FMax Enhancer was a nice idea but most of the times doesn't work and makes the system unstable or slower due to massive clock stretching. You need to be careful with it.
Don't trust feelings and use benchmarks; Unigine Heaven, 3DMark, Geekbench 5, CPU-z, etc Use my BenchMaestro to check if you have clock stretching. The 3700X could boost above 4400 MHz but it's not always possible. My 3800X without the EDC bug doesn't go over 4550 MHz, while with EDC 1 tops 4625 MHz. The best you can get with the EDC bug is probably 4550 MHz but that depends on the binning quality of your CPU.
Use the benchmarks, especially Geekbench 5, to find the best setting for EDC. It's not always 1 the best; I usually test 1-2-3-5-7-10. You may also need a little bump up in SOC Voltage. Very often with the EDC bug to get the clock boosting higher you also need a small negative or positive Vcore offset. It all depends on the specific sample so you have to test yourself.
My play maxes out at 4450MHz. My sister's computer is similar, 4425MHz. I haven't seen bug 3700X reach more than 4425-4450MHz on EDC. The 3800X can actually go up to 4600MHz. My 3700X unfortunately not.
The 3800X has only 100 MHz more boost clock but it's much better binned than the 3700X so it's much easier to get a better one. I'd check and experiment more with the settings cause there's a chance that it can go better with the EDC bug, at least up to 4500 MHz.
You may find something interesting reading this article:
https://www.hisevilness.com/articles/technology/ryzen-7-overclocking-the-3700x.html?showall=1
Consider testing with Global C-State control to disabled as often is causing issues with the EDC bug. Don't disable Core Performance Boost or PBO of course.
Very important also to tweak DIGI+ VRM settings but be careful with the Power Duty/Phase to Extreme as often are causing instability. Also the options that can be set at 120-130% can be messy and more stable with just a notch below.
If you can improve the program, setting the PBO so that I can get a better result, I would ask for help. I currently have 145/95/1. CPU draws 135-138W under stress in cinebench r23.
Just adjusting PBO limits it's probably not going to help. You need to experiment and benchmark with different BIOS settings. Higher limits and power draw doesn't mean necessarily better performances. Use Geekbench 5 and compare the scores with different settings. I use 135/90/1 on my 3800X so it's probably too high at 145/95.
Global C-state Control = Disabled Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle CPPC = Enabled CPPC Preferred Cores = Enabled AMD Cool'n'Quiet = Disabled PPC Adjustment = PState 0
I changed PBO to 135/90/1.
Try with C-state and CnQ enabled if you didn't already. The LLC seems too high; try with CPU set to Auto or 3. SOC it's probably fine at 4, try with 3.
When these options are enabled, the processor is more stable. I set the CPU LLC to Auto. Now CPU eats 133W so PPT 135W is enough. Previously at 135W it was throttled because it used 138-139W.
After enabling C-State and CnQ, single-core performance increased from 527 to 531 points in CPU-Z. Manual OC 4400MHz gets 534 points, 4450 gets 541 points, 4500MHz over 550 points. Unfortunately, manual OC has much worse performance in games than AutoOC with PBO and EDC bug.
Version 1.1.8 is broken. The processor shuts down at various times. Not only on my computer, but also on another computer. Single-core performance in cpu-z is around 529-531 points. In the new version 1.1.8 it drops dramatically.
Very odd, it's almost identical to 1.1.7 except a few small fixes. Are you sure you didn't change anything else? Did you upgrade from a previous version? If that's the case try with a clean install.
Also upgrade CPU-z to the latest version, 1.91 is very old and CPU-z it's pretty finnicky.
If you still have issues try disabling SysSetHack and/or PowerSaverActive in settings to find out which one could be the root cause.
Very often the CPU-z ST bench falling down is a symptom of Global C-state not working well with EDC bug. Sometimes works and then after a few reboots does this. Try if disabling it in BIOS helps.
Unfortunately not. On the second computer as well as on my version 1.1.7 everything was fine. When he updated to version 1.1.8 it started crashing on both computers.
When I disable SysSetHack nothing changes.
Disabling PowerSaver doesn't change anything. Only disabling the program or ThreadBooster option fixes the problem.
Try disabling ZenControl. Stopping ThreadBooster it's almost as closing the program.
Did you try with the 1.1.7 you were using before?
Disabling ZenControl resulted in drops to 510 points. I thought it was ZenControl's fault and suddenly it dropped to the value as in the picture above.
On version 1.1.7 everything is fine. Everything works fine on both computers.